I wouldn't have a problem with Klopp at City as long as he was on a maximum 3 year contract.
I don't believe that any coach should stay at a club longer than 3 seasons. Complacency will slip in at some point. The DOF should be a long term appointment and ultimately responsible for hiring coaching staff.
People talking as if we've reached the zenith of world football. And it's all downhill from here.
I suspect the owners aren't thinking like that.
Pep has done fantastic job, backed to the hilt by Mansour.
We've dominated English football the last decade and achieved things noone has ever done before.
However one CL is average. Chelsea have done better never mind Real Madrid.
The aim now is to build a new team that will do that and it won't be Pep in charge. Viana will get the players. And choose the manager. Look forward to seeing who it is.
I wouldn't want Aït-Nouri as part of a back threeWhy wont he go back to Stones pushing in the middle and create the box midfield that was so good? Have Khusanov right back who makes a back 3 like Akanji did so well.
Keeps pushing Lewis in to the middle
Khusanov Stones Gvardiol Ait-Nouri
Regardless of my concerns I will never "predict" us to fail. I will say this though, if things don't change in terms of team selection, player utilization, and tactical set ups we will never return to the top of the perch. I always hold out hope that Pep might make the necessary changes many know he needs to make. What's funny is the angry clappers think if Pep turns it around it proves they were right all along. Wrong. If Pep makes changes that are in line with what many non clappers have suggested and things work out it's the non-clappers who were right.You can't see there's no contradiction here? Coaching, gelling, and so on, mean nothing?
I'm not surprised that you are avoiding any prediction about the evolution of our performances this season: e.g., whether and to what extent the performances will improve, when, how strong the team is likely to be come the spring.
Life, and football in particular, is best understood in terms of probabilities and tendencies. Some things are (much) more likely to happen. For example, it's far more likely that City have success under Pep than under Ten Hag. The latter cannot be ruled out completely (at least theoretically). Another example: it's likely that Marmoush will score more goals than Savinho.
So, do you have any opinion what's likely to happen or just want those with optimistic takes about the development of the team this season to shut up?
I shared my prediction that our start to the season would be slow weeks before the first game. Unfortunately, I was right. Would you share what you expect to happen? Maybe you have no expectations whatsoever, as the future cannot be inferred from the past?
put it in the other post but this is interesting.
Well Txiki and Pep were aligned last summer and that didn't really work out for usIf that’s true then we really have got problems. A manger and sporting director need to be singing from the same hymn sheet. Otherwise one will blame the other.
Regardless of my concerns I will never "predict" us to fail. I will say this though, if things don't change in terms of team selection, player utilization, and tactical set ups we will never return to the top of the perch. I always hold out hope that Pep might make the necessary changes many know he needs to make. What's funny is the angry clappers think if Pep turns it around it proves they were right all along. Wrong. If Pep makes changes that are in line with what many non clappers have suggested and things work out it's the non-clappers who were right.
Im sure you’re right.Well Txiki and Pep were aligned last summer and that didn't really work out for us
noboby could be a lahm or Roben admittedly, however the plalyers we have signed or brought through play similar rolesBig difference in the quality of the Bayern squads to our current squad sadly. Probably the key issue.
Predictably? You angry clappers are like a dog on a bone.That's predictably vague. What changes would turn things around?
We played well in the first 60 minutes at Brighton. If our fitness levels change, Rodri gets better and players like Donna, Gvardiol and Foden start, would that be described as, roughly, Pep wins because he has made changes?
This swas Peps set up at Bayern the year lewandowski got 50+ and the walked it
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Like here he plalyed bot fullback incerted, however he didn't push them up on the flanks or cantral atrack, he sat them next to Alonso as a aseecond defence and allowed the front 5 do the high press and overrun the oposition defence.
feel if he insists on inverted fullbacks he should use them this way
He also. ahd a 3-4-3 formation with the fullback. playing wing back
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Oh I’d love to see us try a new system agreed. Just think with some of the players we’ve got the system won’t be enough to elevate us back to our previous glories. Lewis nunes Marmoush Doku Savio don’t get anywhere near those Bayern teams. Robbed was some player wasn’t henoboby could be a lahm or Roben admittedly, however the plalyers we have signed or brought through play similar roles
Roben under pep played more inside left and ribery inside right rather than as wingers something Marmoush, foden and Cherki are better suited too, add to that our fullbacks are not defensive enough so a back. 3 and them pushing up to ppressure tge opposition fullbacks and then inverting to support rodri suits them better.
Some of the players are not that bayern side standard bit the formation lends better to their strengths than 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
Yeah it does mate. All the best and CTIDNot by you. I highlighted your comment because in my response I was agreeing with that point. The rest was general commentary. Not directed at you. Hope that clarifies my position...
Predictably? You angry clappers are like a dog on a bone.
Now I know for sure you’re just on the wind up defending that Brighton performance. I’m guessing you liked the second half against spurs too?That's predictably vague. What changes would turn things around?
We played well in the first 60 minutes at Brighton. If our fitness levels change, Rodri gets better and players like Donna, Gvardiol and Foden start, would that be described as, roughly, Pep wins because he has made changes?
I understand what you are saying. However, this is a fan forum. I can't speak for what is said on X or other social media being that I don't use those platforms. But I highly doubt Pep is on BM fretting over what we say. I'm sorry but I find it baffling that so many on here can't cope with other Blues voicing their concerns and opinions. As if disagreeing with the manager or the club on something is going to affect the club's on field performance. Or if you question anything Pep is doing you aren't a Blue. That's actually ridiculous and juvenile, sorry. How can anyone with an honest set of eyes who has seen what's happened to us in such a short period of time think it's so inappropriate to question if maybe Pep has lost the plot some.There's nothing angry in pointing out obvious things.
Many of Pep's critics are oblivious to the fact that last season the team was crippled by injuries, and that this season the rebuild will take time.
7 players need to be fully integrated in the team and get accustomed to the league: Donnarumma, Khusanov, RAN, Gonzalez, Reijnders, Cherki, Marmoush. Also, Bobb played little before his bad injury. Half the team has been changed since January, plus the new players have come from other leagues. Even highly intelligent players like Rodri and Bernardo needed a whole year to get Pep's tactics and the league.
There's no guarantee that Pep will build a third great City team after those of 17-19 and 21-24. But he deserves support. I wouldn't bet against him.
MourinhoPeople talking as if we've reached the zenith of world football. And it's all downhill from here.
I suspect the owners aren't thinking like that.
Pep has done fantastic job, backed to the hilt by Mansour.
We've dominated English football the last decade and achieved things noone has ever done before.
However one CL is average. Chelsea have done better never mind Real Madrid.
The aim now is to build a new team that will do that and it won't be Pep in charge. Viana will get the players. And choose the manager. Look forward to seeing who it is.