Pep Guardiola

[Pam]

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

 

[Anonymous]

What I'd give for Wenger to be employed by City once the new complex opens, he's just what we need.

I totally take your point mate. Who knows what Wenger plans on doing after he retires but I suspect Arsenal will move heaven and earth to keep him and move him upstairs. Only thing I can see making him leave London would be the French national team job.<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 pm --<br /><br />

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

He's a better manager than Mancini.

 

[robbieh]

What I'd give for Wenger to be employed by City once the new complex opens, he's just what we need.

I totally take your point mate. Who knows what Wenger plans on doing after he retires but I suspect Arsenal will move heaven and earth to keep him and move him upstairs. Only thing I can see making him leave London would be the French national team job.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 pm --

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

He's a better manager than Mancini.

Maybe. We don't know. Do you think Ferguson would make a success if he went to Madrid?
Maybe not. We will never know.

All I do know is Mancini has won leagues in two countries. Not as good as Mourinho, although as AVB is proving winning in Portugal doesn't amount to a hill o beans.

I know you are a fan of Mourinho, and he is no risk. But Pep is. As I have said before Tito is doing as good as if not better job than his predecessor.

Rikjaard also did fantastic things at the Camp Nou. Where is he now?

 

[The Future's Blue]

What I'd give for Wenger to be employed by City once the new complex opens, he's just what we need.

I totally take your point mate. Who knows what Wenger plans on doing after he retires but I suspect Arsenal will move heaven and earth to keep him and move him upstairs. Only thing I can see making him leave London would be the French national team job.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 pm --

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

He's a better manager than Mancini.

Fact or opinion?

 

[rastus]

What I'd give for Wenger to be employed by City once the new complex opens, he's just what we need.

I totally take your point mate. Who knows what Wenger plans on doing after he retires but I suspect Arsenal will move heaven and earth to keep him and move him upstairs. Only thing I can see making him leave London would be the French national team job.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 pm --

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

He's a better manager than Mancini.

How do you work that out? Strange

 

[The Future's Blue]

What I'd give for Wenger to be employed by City once the new complex opens, he's just what we need.

I totally take your point mate. Who knows what Wenger plans on doing after he retires but I suspect Arsenal will move heaven and earth to keep him and move him upstairs. Only thing I can see making him leave London would be the French national team job.

-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 pm --

Pep is unproven outside Catalonia. Never been anywhere near any other club but Barca.

He's a better manager than Mancini.

How do you work that out? Strange

It's not strange if it's an opinion. But if it's stated as fact, then there's debate.

 

[Anonymous]

As I have said before Tito is doing as good as if not better job than his predecessor.

To be fair mate, Tito's only been in the job a few months. Pep was there four years so you can't say what kind of a job Tito is doing. Time will tell.

For the rest don't make the mistake of thinking I want Mancini sacked. He won the title and it buys him plenty of respect.

 

[The Future's Blue]

As I have said before Tito is doing as good as if not better job than his predecessor.

To be fair mate, Tito's only been in the job a few months. Pep was there four years so you can't say what kind of a job Tito is doing. Time will tell.

For the rest don't make the mistake of thinking I want Mancini sacked. He won the title and it buys him plenty of respect.

I'm certain you'll scroll back a post or two.

 

[Anonymous]

It's not strange if it's an opinion. But if it's stated as fact, then there's debate.

It's both my opinion and a fact.

Whatever level you want to gauge it on, Pep wins. The only thing which you could argue is that he's only done it at Barca, but he's only ever managed them. He isn't being linked to the biggest jobs in the world because he might be good. He's being linked to them because he is that good.

Mancini was flirting with Monaco and the Russian national job.

 

[Pam]

Billy, put your bloody daggers away re Bobby Manc. He flirted with other clubs as a fall back position when it looked like we might have blown the title. That's what most sensible people would do if threatened with pending redundancy. This one man crusade of yours to deny the facts is ridiculous.

 

[80s Shorts]

Give it a rest Billy. Its becoming too fucking obvious. We dont want talkshite on here.

 

[The Future's Blue]

It's not strange if it's an opinion. But if it's stated as fact, then there's debate.

It's both my opinion and a fact.

Whatever level you want to gauge it on, Pep wins. The only thing which you could argue is that he's only done it at Barca, but he's only ever managed them. He isn't being linked to the biggest jobs in the world because he might be good. He's being linked to them because he is that good.

Mancini was flirting with Monaco and the Russian national job.

Fact, how can that be fact? It's not just the arguement that he has only done it with one club, there's also the debate that the players coming through at the club were going to go on and be the best team ever. There's also the debate that he did it with his players, having years of pre-assembling the team.

And what about assembling a team, has he done it that way? Or what about in different leagues, different styles, has he done it that way?

No, my friend, it isn't fact, it is just opinion. Until you get the managers to exact similar conditions, you cannot state anything as fact Who's to say that in 3 years Mancini hasn't got his homegrown flowers to nurture?

Well done though, it really shows.

PS. Fuck off Pep! Not my type of guy.

 

[80s Shorts]

Billy, put your bloody daggers away re Bobby Manc. He flirted with other clubs as a fall back position when it looked like we might have blown the title. That's what most sensible people would do if threatened with pending redundancy. This one man crusade of yours to deny the facts is ridiculous.

His opinions are facts dont you know. (See 2 posts above). He is being contrary to generate posts. There is no debate as his opinions are "facts". I presume he is a mod. Is he ?

 

[CitytillIdie74]

Pep is gonna get figured out soon enough when he has to get stuck in to the real job and not be handed a TEAM of very talented youngsters who know each other like the Barca he inherited did. Look at AVB with Porto, he looked the part there but take him out of his comfort zone and into a cauldron with a bigger budget and he cannot hack it.
He will get a big deal from Either Milan or Chelsea but he will not have thesuccess he had at Barca!

 

[Pam]

Billy, put your bloody daggers away re Bobby Manc. He flirted with other clubs as a fall back position when it looked like we might have blown the title. That's what most sensible people would do if threatened with pending redundancy. This one man crusade of yours to deny the facts is ridiculous.

His opinions are facts dont you know. (See 2 posts above). He is being contrary to generate posts. There is no debate as his opinions are "facts". I presume he is a mod. Is he ?

Just contrary, I think, as you point out.

 

[moomba]

If they thought Mancini was the right man to take the club forward a few months ago I doubt they're so fickle as to have changed their minds already.

Particularly when we sit on top of the league.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

He flirted with other clubs as a fall back position when it looked like we might have blown the title. That's what most sensible people would do if threatened with pending redundancy

I'm assuming you're talking about last season, when you, 80s Shorts and others of your kind were absolutely spewing fire and bile from every orifice at those of us who suggested that mancini's job was under threat if we didn't win the league?

I've noticed that the Monaco revelations quietly stunned you Attack Dogs and your 'Bobby is The Sheikh's man for the long term' proclamations.

I don't believe Mancini will be sacked mid season, although stranger things have happened. But If he doesn't win the league he's on thin ice I believe. Luckily I think we will because we have the best players and have developed a 'never say die' attitude.

But if we are not right in the mix next Easter ill bet you mancini's people will be knocking on the doors of Italian clubs touting their client.

 

[Anonymous]

Fact, how can that be fact? It's not just the arguement that he has only done it with one club, there's also the debate that the players coming through at the club were going to go on and be the best team ever. There's also the debate that he did it with his players, having years of pre-assembling the team.

And what about assembling a team, has he done it that way? Or what about in different leagues, different styles, has he done it that way?

No, my friend, it isn't fact, it is just opinion. Until you get the managers to exact similar conditions, you cannot state anything as fact Who's to say that in 3 years Mancini hasn't got his homegrown flowers to nurture?

Well done though, it really shows.

PS. Fuck off Pep! Not my type of guy.

I've read that post about fifteen times now and it still makes very little sense to me. Whatever it is your trying to say just isn't connecting. Pep developed a group of very talented young players. He then coached them into being the best team in the world, granted with the exceptional talent that is Messi. If that isn't an advert of your abilities as a coach and manager I don't know what is. As to whether it's a fact or an opinion that he's better than Mancini, it doesn't really matter. I can say it's a fact, you can say it's not. Neither of us can prove it so it's a fruitless argument. I suppose I said it was fact because you asked the question. I found it a bit stupid.

 

[johnny crossan]

He flirted with other clubs as a fall back position when it looked like we might have blown the title. That's what most sensible people would do if threatened with pending redundancy

I'm assuming you're talking about last season, when you, 80s Shorts and others of your kind were absolutely spewing fire and bile from every orifice at those of us who suggested that mancini's job was under threat if we didn't win the league?

I've noticed that the Monaco revelations quietly stunned you Attack Dogs and your 'Bobby is The Sheikh's man for the long term' proclamations.

I don't believe Mancini will be sacked mid season, although stranger things have happened. But If he doesn't win the league he's on thin ice I believe. Luckily I think we will because we have the best players and have developed a 'never say die' attitude.

But if we are not right in the mix next Easter ill bet you mancini's people will be knocking on the doors of Italian clubs touting their client.

Pep's headed down the Bridge as we speak, it would be cruel for Bob if we beat Madrid only to open the door to Jose!

 

[blue 68]

Fuck me, we're top of the league, we play RM tomorrow and if this thread is still on our front page then frankly it's an embarrassment.