Pep's contract situation

BlueCityfan said:
Right now we are failing /declining. We aren't living in 2017-2019. Conte was sacked a year after winning the league with Chelsea and breaking the points record.

If Pep signed an extension now and we continue to under perform. It would be even more expensive to sack him. Everything good has to come to an end.
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No loyalty there lad. I disagree. Pep is a top manager and has brought us some major honours and records.

This is a strange time and not the time to see him off.
 
mancityvstoke said:
No loyalty there lad. I disagree. Pep is a top manager and has brought us some major honours and records.

This is a strange time and not the time to see him off.
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I don't think Pep should be sacked. I just don't think it is a good idea to give him an extension before we know if he can turn things around.
 
Sack the manager when it gets a little tough? Some whoppers today. The players seem to be doing just that. Pep has improved most of them and they are letting him down. It is time the players backed the manager and the supporters stick it out. Some people just can’t handle it when we are not winning all the time. Patients please and steady heads needed. Rebuild while staying on top is a tough job.

Interesting times ahead. We are city and it is never straight forward just look at the CAS verdict.Win against Leeds, arsenal and West Ham coming up.
 
Coatigan said:
You know what? i'm fucking going to say it. Credit to bloody Liverpool supporters. They may be in a delusional bubble at times, they may be culty, but they back their manager and players as if they were the best.

For the best part of 5 years, under klopp, when they bounced between 7th in the league to 3rd at best, before they came even close to winning anything, i've seen them defend ther manager, argue it was all part of a rebuild and time was needed to build a winning team, and argue how good their players are. I remember thinking, how long does this build take, how long can that narrative last. No idea what their forums are like but from anyone i've ever heard, they've always backed their squad and management (helps when the media do the same i know) no end.

Contrast that to so many on here wanting a manager that has won unprecedented success, not just at the club but never before seen in the league and country, rid off, because the team lost 9 fucking games and got knocked out of a cup in a one off round! In a season of injuries, var, that CAS debacle the club went through, and a global pandemic.

Second game of the season, depleted squad, no pre-season, and it's time for him to go, write the rest of all competitions off?

Genuinely can't understand it.


PS. Fucking Pochetino???
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I wish we’d have a siege mentality but actually the fan base has grown incredibly weak mentally just like the team.
Turning on players straight away after a shit game, never trying to build them back up (gun dog, mangala, stones, Ota, mahrez etc)
Completely over the top dramatic nonsense about everything. Never slowing for thee circumstances and making it seem worse than it it.
The complete opposite to what we should be doing.
I’m not saying we should happy clap but a bit of fucking support for the people of our club, not just the club wouldn’t go amiss.
 
B\connellblue said:
What makes you think things will improve? Just curious. No history of addressing any short comings we have.
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How can they not improve? We are missing several important players for a start and are bringing in some quality in positions we’ve struggled.
Of course we will improve. If you think what we saw yesterday is going to be the story of the season that’s up to you - but then you’ve hardly got a history of positivity even when we are flying.
 
Does seem like Pep and squad getting tired of each other. does players 100% believe current tactics will get them PL title and CL title?

Do players give 110% currently? Did they do last season?

Pep is probably really undecided on the renewal, because he must be seeing the same. Does the players react same way to his methods like 3 years ago? Are those methods still as good as they were given how opponents have adapted.
Can he get the absolute best out of the majority of the squad or was last season the best they could do?

There is an uncertainty around the whole thing, and that is why we are in limbo if he is staying or going. Of course it has effect on how we play. Is this a farewell season to Pep?

Maybe the Messi saga plays a role too, he would fancy a Messi reunion one last time, and Messi would only arrive if Pep will oversee that period as a manager. Fort that reason Pep cannot say he is leaving as that would finish off the chance to get Messi.

But at this point I might would spend big on a top midfielder and LB and striker than get Messi here have a big commercial circus for one year maybe then him and Pep leave soon and we still would need an LB, a top quick midfielder and a striker.

I would fucking give away 5% of CFG to sign an proper LB and someone taking over from Kun and get an upgrade Gundogan and fitness coaches who will make sure each of our players are at their top of their fitness to start heavy pressing again...
 
B\connellblue said:
Do you truly believe he has no input into who we sign?
Are you telling me there's no decent left backs in the world?
Yes we were great for a couple of seasons, seems a long time ago now and now we are an average side a KDB injury away from been a below average one. Any team with a bit of pace prepared to be patient can turn us over. At the end of the day same as any other job the buck stops with the Manager. I kind of liked it when teams feared us, they don't anymore.
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Love how you just sidestep the points made. Makes me think you have an agenda.

1) name 1/2 world class gettable leftbacks?
2) why do we always regress after a successfull period no matter who is manager? Even though its the same recruitment team.
3) only weak spots in our team now is lb and a more mobile cdm, hardly average now nevermind close to being below average.
4) is it peps fault that laporte, cancelo, stones, zinchenko, gundogan, bernado, mahrez(only just returned from positive covid 19 test), Jesus and kun are all injured at once.
5) is it peps fault the recruitment team took months to bring in a cb hes needed for 2 seasons?

He has a re build on his hands and if you look it isn't going too bad. Take a step back look at it.

Steffan/ederson not a better gk duo in Europe
Walker/cancelo/couto perfect blend
Dias/stones/thb strong
Laporte/ake perfect
?/mendy 1st teamer needed
Rodri/? Mobile cdm needed
Kdb/bernado perfect
Foden/doyle so much potential (would like aouer)
Sterling/braaf great 1st teamer braaf all potential.
Mahrez/torres strong
Kun/jesus/delap perfect blend.

Sell gundogan, zinchenko, nico and keep ferna around as club captain this year buy lb & cdm with cash.

Next year kun, ferna will leave and sell mahrez replace kun & mahrez and you have pep 2.0 team ready to go again. With some amazing kids snapping at heels to get in to the squad.

All in all he's doing a great job. Not many managers finish top 4 never mind top 2 transitioning a squad and losing players like kun, silva, sane, yaya, ferna, kompany (basically the whole spine) within 3 years on top of kdb out for over half a season, laporte nearly a full season, same with stones and sane. Yes he had faith mendy could come back as he was before, so did i, but I'm glad he did. Yes its cost us results but imagine the morale if he just got sold. Every player scared to go in hard/run themselves into the ground incase of a bad injury and no loyalty or patience shown.

Tell me again, truthfully, does he deserve to be sacked?
 
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