Phil and Jack on the lash?

Just don’t get why anyone finds him dislikable. Think he’s got a nice way about him. His insouciant demeanour might irritate some, but that’s just the way many Brummies are.

Anyone I know in and around Barnt Green where he still lives who’s met him/encountered him says he’s unfailingly polite and courteous to everyone he deals with, especially waiting staff and shop workers. He’s got a supportive family network too. I know he was well thought of by nearly all Villa fans despite his manifest flaws.

He’s fucked up and he deserved to be called out on it, and hopefully he’ll learn from the experience, but some of the vitriol towards him on this thread as well as his on his ‘player performance’ thread appear to be unjustifiably filled with bile and are not imo in accordance with what being a supporter of a football club should be about, which is about ‘supporting’ your players. Balanced and reasoned criticism is fine, but some of it goes way beyond that. Sadly, we’ve always had a section of our support who struggle with supporting our players as they should, probably because of their own inadequacies and insecurities. They seem to take their anger at the world out their own players.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Just don’t get why anyone finds him dislikable. Think he’s got a nice way about him. His insouciant demeanour might irritate some, but that’s just the way many Brummies are.

Anyone I know in and around Barnt Green where he still lives who’s met him/encountered him says he’s unfailingly polite and courteous to everyone he deals with, especially waiting staff and shop workers. He’s got a supportive family network too. I know he was well thought of by nearly all Villa fans despite his manifest flaws.

He’s fucked up and he deserved to be called out on it, and hopefully he’ll learn from the experience, but some of the vitriol towards him on this thread as well as his on his ‘player performance’ thread appear to be unjustifiably filled with bile and are not imo in accordance with what being a supporter of a football club should be about, which is about ‘supporting’ your players. Balanced and reasoned criticism is fine, but some of it goes way beyond that. Sadly, we’ve always had a section of our support who struggle with supporting our players as they should, probably because of their own inadequacies and insecurities. They seem to take their anger at the world out their own players.
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Nailed it, mate.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Just don’t get why anyone finds him dislikable. Think he’s got a nice way about him. His insouciant demeanour might irritate some, but that’s just the way many Brummies are.

Anyone I know in and around Barnt Green where he still lives who’s met him/encountered him says he’s unfailingly polite and courteous to everyone he deals with, especially waiting staff and shop workers. He’s got a supportive family network too. I know he was well thought of by nearly all Villa fans despite his manifest flaws.

He’s fucked up and he deserved to be called out on it, and hopefully he’ll learn from the experience, but some of the vitriol towards him on this thread as well as his on his ‘player performance’ thread appear to be unjustifiably filled with bile and are not imo in accordance with what being a supporter of a football club should be about, which is about ‘supporting’ your players. Balanced and reasoned criticism is fine, but some of it goes way beyond that. Sadly, we’ve always had a section of our support who struggle with supporting our players as they should, probably because of their own inadequacies and insecurities. They seem to take their anger at the world out their own players.
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I’m not saying this is the case with Jack or owt, as I don’t know anything about the lad; but I’ve met many lads over the years who are polite and nice lads around their family and in work… get them amongst their mates in other situations and they’re fucking horrible little weasels who need a good fucking backhand right across the chops who are simply putting on an act the rest of the time.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Just don’t get why anyone finds him dislikable. Think he’s got a nice way about him. His insouciant demeanour might irritate some, but that’s just the way many Brummies are.

Anyone I know in and around Barnt Green where he still lives who’s met him/encountered him says he’s unfailingly polite and courteous to everyone he deals with, especially waiting staff and shop workers. He’s got a supportive family network too. I know he was well thought of by nearly all Villa fans despite his manifest flaws.

He’s fucked up and he deserved to be called out on it, and hopefully he’ll learn from the experience, but some of the vitriol towards him on this thread as well as his on his ‘player performance’ thread appear to be unjustifiably filled with bile and are not imo in accordance with what being a supporter of a football club should be about, which is about ‘supporting’ your players. Balanced and reasoned criticism is fine, but some of it goes way beyond that. Sadly, we’ve always had a section of our support who struggle with supporting our players as they should, probably because of their own inadequacies and insecurities. They seem to take their anger at the world out their own players.
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What does insouciant mean? Is it Latin for **** or something?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’m not saying this is the case with Jack or owt, as I don’t know anything about the lad; but I’ve met many lads over the years who are polite and nice lads around their family and in work… get them amongst their mates in other situations and they’re fucking horrible little weasels who need a good fucking backhand right across the chops who are simply putting on an act the rest of the time.
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There's a club in Birmingham he goes to regularly, and the owner is a very good mate of mine, who's never said a bad word about him when he’s been in there with his mates. You can only speak as you (indirectly) find. I’d certainly rely upon that more than anything I’d read in the press.
 
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