yep the age of the offense was considered very old to be investigated. That and the pay off we received stopped the FA from looking into the case. Even though it was a clear case of industrial espionage and not treating other clubs with respectIs it true that the dippers hacking was deemed ‘time barred’ by the same organisation that says our alleged discrepancies cannot be?
Do we really know what documents we did / didn’t supply before CAS. We supplied enough information to put the emails stolen by Pinto into context. We refused to cooperate with the UEFA inquiry for reasons including passed chairmen of Liverpool and Man U were involved in the initial prosecution. We didn’t cooperate with UEFA so some procedural fine could be justified.If City have indeed fail to supply everything the thePL requests and they ( unlike UEFA) can produce evidence that despite repeated requests to provide such requests haven’t been met in full then I think it’s inevitable that the tribunal will make damaging assumptions as to what those documents reveal .
Even if they don’t!
Then at the inevitable appeal” that forum ( unlike CAS where UEFAs assumptions were dismissed because in effect UEFA gave up trying to get the info) I would imagine the PL s attempts to gain full disclosure added to the High Courts ruling and the hint given by CAS in this regard that failure to fully disclose any defence re non cooperation won’t go well
That is just not correctIs it true that the dippers hacking was deemed ‘time barred’ by the same organisation that says our alleged discrepancies cannot be?
I don't think we can accept any "pinch" this time. We need to stand up for ourselves we've tried playing the nice guy and now it's time to end this once and for all, if that means dragging the PL or rivals clubs through the courts for years so be it. Enough is enough.
Cheers for that. So Ernst & Young ran the check. That's more than good enough for me because if what was alleged actually happened then the auditors would've been in on it as well so by extension it could be argued Ernst & Young are effectively being accused of accountancy fraud too. With that in mind, and assuming that nothing else has come to light in the meantime, I'm not sure why the PL would even want to revisit this and any other charges where we won at CAS!
II think our owner is a Real Madrid supporter.I read today that Lord Pannick is an Arsenal supporter. I fully expect him to give his all for us regardless.
The Etihad stuff was covered at CAS and was cleared. They, not ADUG, were found to have paid the sponsorship, that it was fair value and that they got fair value in return. Two others were Aabar and Etisalat but I think those two were time-barred. Aabar would have been similar to Etihad so not worried about that. Etisalat was an odd one as ADUG advanced the monies for that one, but that was before FFP if I remember correctly. Once FFP came in, they reimbursed ADUG. It was in the CAS verdict that UEFA were aware of that and accepted it.I'd just like to ask one quick question of #Prestwich_Blue please. I watched your interview with Cheesy and have read your informative message a couple of pages back. You address the materiality of both the Mancini scenario and that of the player payments. I agree that neither of these are likely to be significant enough to result in extreme sanctions but you don't make comment on the "sponsorship stuff." I just wondered why that was. In terms of materiality, Mancini is golf ball size, player payments is tennis ball size but the sponsorship is potentially beach ball size. Why have you not addressed the beach ball. I know we have little detail but are you confident the sponsorship stuff is not a threat (can you pop the beach ball?). I ask simply because it is only the sponsorship stuff that really worries me. Thankyou
I've not come across anything from Wenger where he has talked up the allegations - have you got any links?Arsene has been talking up the allegations constantly until now. Any comment like this one is welcomed, but why the change of heart, and if he knows Khaldoon so well as he says why has it taken til now to make this u-turn?