PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bennyboy]

Who was the journalist Pep sorted out here.

 

[lust overlord]

What is?

Presuming he means a load more fact shy innuendo prior to the cup final.

 

[petrusha]

Let me frame it another way. If it’s the same evidence provided to CAS which clears City & this time we are found guilty. Can that be considered unreasonable?

You're pressing me for an answer that I can't give. There's obviously a strong argument that it can, but it doesn't mean that we could guarantee that, upon any appeal, he court would accept it as such.

I thought that UEFA's evidence at CAS on the main substantive point was laughable, frankly. But one of the panel was happy to find us guilty on that basis. Litigation always entails a risk.

The PL as an institution and the individuals concerned would be highly embarrassed if its panel were to hand down a verdict in this case that we could then appeal on the grounds that they breached their duty of fairness and impartiality. Let's hope that's enough to keep them honest.

Let me make one thing very clear. I think he likelihood of an appeal to the court system is almost certainly a red herring. I'm simply been responding to the idea that the PL can be as unreasonable as it likes with no threat of recourse.

That's all, nothing more. I appreciate that people want as much comfort and reassurance as possible in these circumstances. It would be wrong of me to try and provide that save in the very narrow sense of the final sentence in my preceding paragraph.

 

[supercity88]

Yes, the idea is basically that you don't get a right of appeal to the courts if the decision is a bit contentious or marginal or you don't like it or think you weren't treated well but the tribunal has basically acted professionally. But if you get properly fucked over and are able to justify that to a court, protection is there.

The latter is very rare as generally tribunals covered by the Act comprise professional people who take their duties seriously. But there does seem to be a sense in football that those with regulatory power can act as they wish without being bound by legal principles that apply in other industries, so I suppose you never know.

I'd be concerned if we had to rely on that process to get the outcome we want.

Much like CAS with the duty of cooperation, I would imagine it is very hard to prove that they didn't act professionally. By default there would be an expectation that they did and as long as they followed the law and principles established their decision making was lawful.

CAS accepted, with concern, that there were leaks within UEFA but still fined us for not cooperating with the investigation, because again, by default, they have to believe UEFA are a fair and impartial body.

 

[aguero93:20]

Thanks for explaining that clearly. It's reassuring to hear that they couldn't just impose some arbitrary penalty (say relegation to League Two) and that we'd just have to accept it with no legal recourse whatsoever.

Relegated to league 2 followed by promotion with 138 points, winning the league cup and retaining the champions league and FA Cup along the way ;)

 

[SilverFox2]

Nah, they don’t have the funds for the full rebuild that they need, they’ve just had a failed attempt at selling the business and are fighting City, Qatar, Newcastle who can now spend £500m this summer with the CL funds, Arsenal likewise and Chelsea with a competent manager in charge.

Their only chance of getting back into the CL anytime soon is to win the Europa.

The big advantage that City have had is that we just survived the early investment phase and then we're effectively allowed by our main owner to reinvest profits.

How long this will be the policy I don't know but other financially successful clubs have much less generous ownership.

 

[SilverFox2]

Depends on your interpretation of 'massive'. I agree with you, they are a top club and have quality, and are still better than most of the challengers. They also need significant investment, longer term. But they are unlikely to have issues with FFP so it is a bit moot. Guess that means you are right, damn.

Would they have a large amount to spend should Salah decide to leave?

 

[train man]

The big advantage that City have had is that we just survived the early investment phase and then we're effectively allowed by our main owner to reinvest profits.

How long this will be the policy I don't know but other financially successful clubs have much less generous ownership.

Indeed, which shows the strategic longer-term investment plan by our owners, not taking out profit (like US owners), allowing legitimate reinvestment, whilst all the while increasing the value of the club many times over. Building this City on solid rock (to paraphrase). Good on 'em..!!

 

[dadnlad]

Would they have a large amount to spend should Salah decide to leave?

it would atleast match the Coutinho money

 

[aguero93:20]

Would they have a large amount to spend should Salah decide to leave?

His wages.