PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

As @halfcenturyup said, you’re getting mixed up between Etihad and Etisalat. All this latest kerfuffle is to do with the Etisalat deal - nobody, not even City, ever claimed that the payments on that particular deal came from central funds and City have been up front about where it came from initially (and later paid back by Etisalat). You’re right that it wasn’t ruled on by CAS so it’s potentially a matter of concern but no-one can claim it was disguised equity funding as we’ve not made any attempt to disguise it from what I can see. I do worry a little that the independent panel might flag it up and rule against us but on the other hand you have David Dein saying that he doesn’t believe it’s that much of a smoking gun.

Cheers, that certainly helps clarify Dein’s comments for me. So the actual issue with Etisalat then is that we simply paid the money ourselves, but didn’t hide that fact? A breach of FFP then, but not false accounting?
 
Agree I dont understand how you can have a discipline procedure without the right to appeal. That in itself leads you to think kangaroo court.
It also undermines the appeal proceedings as it does really have to follow any rules, just the made up rules they made.

Football doesn't live in the real world from the top to grassroots its badly run.

Going of topic I was banned for 4 yrs without a hearing just got a letter from kent fa lol.

Football doesn't seem to have to follow any sensible laws or rules. It's a basic common right to be able to appeal a decision. Yet in the pl you cant. You can see why City want an independent committee.

I may be well off the mark here, but the PL rules give a right of appeal to an appeals panel after the disciplinary committee. The problem is the appeals panel is also appointed by the PL. But after that there is another avenue to an actual independent tribunal, the members of which are selected one by each party, and the two choices choosing a third. The possibility of appeal to the tribunal is pretty narrow but I would be surprised if our guys aren't anticipating that and looking at ways to get to the tribunal.

Our lawyers on here can tell me where I am wrong on this I suppose. They are never slow to tell me what I have wrong. :)
 
Cheers, that certainly helps clarify Dein’s comments for me. So the actual issue with Etisalat then is that we simply paid the money ourselves, but didn’t hide that fact? A breach of FFP then, but not false accounting?
That’s the way I’m reading it but I’m no expert on this. Maybe @Prestwich_Blue can clarify?
Of course, the independent panel might see it differently so I wouldn’t say we’re totally out of the woods on that one. Although City being up front about it gives me encouragement that the club aren’t that worried about this particular line of investigation.
 
We don’t actually know how advanced the case is do we? A panel could have been chosen but it won’t be public knowledge? Or it shouldn’t be, are we just assuming we’ll get leaks of all the major parts of it…
 
It's not equity funding because they got the money back. It's short-term financing if it's anything. In effect, selling a receivable at the worst.

As I understand it, Etisalat couldn't pay the amounts because the renewal contract signature was delayed while some issues were ironed out. Until that happened, the parties were working under an MOU. Services were performed under the MOU and Etisalat's liability under the MOU recorded. Invoices were issued.

I imagine the club had budgeted the cash from the renewed contract and needed it to meet payments. So, until Etisalat could pay under a signed contract, ADUG advanced the money. When the contract was signed, Etisalat paid the sponsorship money to ADUG. In fact, when the contract was signed, it stipulated that money should be paid to ADUG.

There are some questions around all this, I only have the information from CAS, but in my opinion, it is in no way equity funding.

Excellent, cheers for that. First time I’ve had a proper handle on it as a result! This stuff’s a feckin’ nightmare for the financially challenged…..
 
That’s the way I’m reading it but I’m no expert on this. Maybe @Prestwich_Blue can clarify?
Of course, the independent panel might see it differently so I wouldn’t say we’re totally out of the woods on that one. Although City being up front about it gives me encouragement that the club aren’t that worried about this particular line of investigation.

Management have had 4 years to get their Etisalat ducks in a row. I am sure they have any explanations and documentation tied down.
 
No Yves Leterme former Chief Investigator of the UEFA Club Financial Control Body he was the man that City accused of leaking confidential information during his investigation. He also accidentally cocked-up the investigation into PSG leaving it too late to charge them. He's also got a dodgy history as a disgraced Belgian PM. City went to CAS before the main case to get the investigation thrown out as it breached UEFA rules however, CAS couldn't rule. It was seen though as a tactic to highlight the issue later, in fact CAS agreed that their had been breaches and sided with City's reasons for non-cooperation and reduced the e30M fine to e10M couldnt throw it out as City had clearly not cooperated

Yeah I remember him & how he was well entrenched into Qatari jizz.

I was thinking Parry quickly moving onto the EFL to continue his Scouse ops & ensure they don’t ask for too much from the prem.
 
What permantly pisses me off is the very one-sided coverage this gets and the farce of it all.

Whatever City are or are not guilty of; all our owner has ultimately done is invest in his club for success.

Has anyone added up what the sums invovled in the alleged breaches amounts to and compared it to what has been invested overall and where City's turnover stands now?

I expect the amounts are not particulalry significant through that window. And why does the media not question more what right / expertise the football authorities have to set limits on investment. What is a fair amount? Haven't city proved beyond question that their investment has been finacially sound?

City don't lead the pack just because of significant investment, they do so because they are so well managed.

IF City did bend the rules, other complain it's not fair and it's wrong because they got an advantge others didn't because they stuck to the rules but did they really? Have other big clubs activities been looked into cloesly enough?
 

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