PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[GaudinoMotors]

Is everyone thinking transfer windows and other issues perhaps being linked, still being told to fuck off?

 

[M18CTID]

Based upon how the club have sat on their hands for 2 summers and failed to improve us or at least to maintain us at our peak, it says to me that despite all the unfounded happy clapping over the charges, we are in the shit.
The sale of Alverez is telling in all this
If we think we have problems now, god help us in the years ahead

Yeah, deffo mate. After all, they're only spending over £300 million on the stadium expansion!

 

[wolviedinho]

We all win together and we all go down together.

The pressure put on the fanbase for alot of seasons now with 115 and competing at the top has been exhausting at times. We all need this period to rest and reset.

So lucky pep decided to stay and help rebuild the squad.

Ignore the media if you can. Laugh at the stupid cunts for trying to create narratives to sell reactions. It’s all a game and they think we are all too stupid to see it.

It’s football, our club is struggling, that’s it. We go again.

 

[Whether or not]

And the 115 has worked and done what the rest of the PL wanted.

We have held back in the market and let the others not only catch up but overtake.

Time to strike back with vengeance starting in January and this summer, no messing , pay what's required to bring in elite players.

I don’t think the transfer business has been good. But it smacks more of complacency and over loyalty to certain ageing stars, than a result of 115 charges. And some bad luck re Rodri and Bobb. We have ploughed on at pace with a £300m ground improvement, and in Erling and Josko, signed two of the most sought after young players in world football in the last couple of years. The overall squad depth has certainly been allowed to weaken, but I’m not convinced it is charge related.

 

[KS55]

I don’t think the transfer business has been good. But it smacks more of complacency and over loyalty to certain ageing stars, than a result of 115 charges. And some bad luck re Rodri and Bobb. We have ploughed on at pace with a £300m ground improvement, and in Erling and Josko, signed two of the most sought after young players in world football in the last couple of years. The overall squad depth has certainly been allowed to weaken, but I’m not convinced it is charge related.

Spot on.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

Is everyone thinking transfer windows and other issues perhaps being linked, still being told to fuck off?

I believe the legal advice was to go into the hearing phase with the best possible bank ballance. That would help the narrative that the club’s financial management was highly professional and highly successful. Remeber the end of season interview when Khaldoon described the club as a "money making machine". At the time I thought that was a bit weird.

The costs will be huge, I'm sure the club have done their upmost to control it but since 115 day we must have spent tens of millions on legal fees.

The North Stand development and the new stadium in New York must also have had a huge financial impact at CFG level.

All of the above plus Pep constantly prevaricating about renewal, might explain the net profit in the summer transfer window,

The knock on effect of that window plus the injuries and loss of form led to yesterday. Even the most blinkered fan would have to admit how lucky we were to get away with a 2 nil pasting.

January will be very revealing, if we make a couple of high profile signings I would be amazed. Despite the onfield risks of throwing in new players mid season I think splurging £100m on new players during the decision phase could be considered far too risky. For me, this season is a write off, we just have to hope we qualify for the 25/26 UCL.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I believe the legal advice was to go into the hearing phase with the best possible bank ballance. That would help the narrative that the club’s financial management was highly professional and highly successful. Remeber the end of season interview when Khaldoon described the club was a "money making machine". At the time I thought that was a bit weird.

The costs will be huge, I'm sure the club have done their upmost to control it but since 115 day we must have spent tens of millions on legal fees.

The North Stand development and the new stadium in New York must also have had a huge financial mpact at CFG level.

All of the above plus Pep constantly prevaricating about renewal, might explain the net profit in the summer transfer window,

The knock on effect of that window plus the injuries and loss of form led to yesterday. Even the most blinkered fan would have to admit how lucky we were to get away with a 2 nil pasting.

January will be highly revealing, if we make a couple of high profile signings I would be amazed. Despite the onfield risks of throwing in new players mid season I think splurging £100m on new players during the decision phase could be considered too risky. For me this season is a write off, we just have to hope we're qualify for the 25/26 UCL.

Wow - logic and common sense! ;-)

 

[wolviedinho]

I believe the legal advice was to go into the hearing phase with the best possible bank ballance. That would help the narrative that the club’s financial management was highly professional and highly successful. Remeber the end of season interview when Khaldoon described the club as a "money making machine". At the time I thought that was a bit weird.

The costs will be huge, I'm sure the club have done their upmost to control it but since 115 day we must have spent tens of millions on legal fees.

The North Stand development and the new stadium in New York must also have had a huge financial impact at CFG level.

All of the above plus Pep constantly prevaricating about renewal, might explain the net profit in the summer transfer window,

The knock on effect of that window plus the injuries and loss of form led to yesterday. Even the most blinkered fan would have to admit how lucky we were to get away with a 2 nil pasting.

January will be highly revealing, if we make a couple of high profile signings I would be amazed. Despite the onfield risks of throwing in new players mid season I think splurging £100m on new players during the decision phase could be considered too risky. For me this season is a write off, we just have to hope we qualify for the 25/26 UCL.

Interesting point on the legal advice.

The club needed to be seen as financially prudent to deflect against the ongoing state funded, bottom less pit narrative created by our competitors.

The club has clearly taken the prudent approach when it come to serious investment in the squad. Leaving us not so good on the field.

It does grate somewhat that the 115 lies have had the desired impact on our dominance.

 

[halfcenturyup]

It appears that the hearing was adjourned last month, but will reconvene later this month for both parties to give their closing arguments. March seems like a reasonable bet for them to produce the final written judgment, given that it will need to be very thorough and be carefully drafted given the importance of the matters they're dealing with.

Who knows, and I may be wrong, but I don't personally see an appeal then dragging on for 12 months more or longer. The appeal might not cover all the issues, and in any event the appeal panel doesn't reexamine all the evidence. It will take the facts established in the first hearing and use that same evidence to establish whether the facts in question were properly assessed, whether any disputed points of law were applied correctly and whether any penalties were fairly set.

The hearing will therefore be quicker than the current one, but it still might not be practicable to hold the appeal until autumn given difficulties with scheduling and so on. But the hearing is likely to be significantly shorter than 10 or 12 weeks, and they may well be able to produce the judgment more quickly than the 3 months we're hypothesising for the current proceedings.

This is obviously all guesswork, but it's at least based on a knowledge of similar procedures to those involved in the current case. And based on that, Christmas or early 2026 might not be a bad punt for the final outcome if there's an appeal. Usual disclaimers apply.

I may be wrong, but the club can present evidence at the summation stage, or at appeal, that wasn't originally available at the time of the hearing, provided the panel agrees. Is that right?

 

[M12Blue]

And the 115 has worked and done what the rest of the PL wanted.

We have held back in the market and let the others not only catch up but overtake.

Time to strike back with vengeance starting in January and this summer, no messing , pay what's required to bring in elite players.

Absolutely.
For whatever team the team has been neglected. The succession planning for our elite players is still to start.
KDB, Gundo, Walker have fallen off a cliff.
Berny not far behind. Grealish ????
Stones a concern as never fit.
Need a midfield rebuild, RB, LB, number 10 /second striker.
No rough diamonds, elite level players.
The mantra in 2008 was big investment to accelerate performance, personally feel we are at that point again if we want to maintain our position as number 1. Scouse, Arse and Chelsea have overtaken us.