Which problems the club has faced ? We have been very successful on and off the pitch the pitch stuff is other people’s area and joint decisions. Aside from this case off the pitch has been amazing. This case has been out of his control in some respects and so far he has been winning CAS APT
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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Did you read the book? It was a quote.Possibly. He would still be a cunting management consultant, though.
Btw, I hated the title of his book "The ball doesn't go in by chance". Arrogant bollocks. I am waiting for the sequel " The Spanish airline doesn't go bankrupt by chance".
He is one lucky fucker.
And the airline was in massive trouble before he took over it. He actually started to turn it around before a deal with Qatar Airways collapsed and it sunk them
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Possibly. He would still be a cunting management consultant, though.
Btw, I hated the title of his book "The ball doesn't go in by chance". Arrogant bollocks. I am waiting for the sequel " The Spanish airline doesn't go bankrupt by chance".
He is one lucky fucker.
I’m not fond of management consultants neither. The last one I dealt with the biggest fraud id known but not shy with his invoices. Shit strategy & no risk to him.
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Did you read the book? It was a quote.
And the airline was in massive trouble before he took over it. He actually started to turn it around before a deal with Qatar Airways collapsed and it sunk them
:) I wasn't being entirely serious, but no I didn't read it. I am sure it was very well-written, though. Consultants are very good at writing the things people want to hear.
And yes I know a little about the airline. Iirc, his conviction and sanctions were reversed on appeal?
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1. Safer to assume the opponent are not idiots or irrational. It is really very unlikely. At UEFA one of the biggest issues is that City appear not to have fully engaged and therefore UEFA could argue they acted rationally based on what was before them. I don't think it is established that UEFA was irrational - certainly CAS never made such a statement.
2. I don't agree that the PL rely on utmost good faith - the allegations are just very serious.
3. I don't agree the related party issue is part of the PL's case - it is both subjective and time barred in the absence of fraud or concealment. Furthermore they could easily have gone after related party in 2023s accounts if that was the issue.
4. Mancini and Fordham do not justify a case on their own
5. Yes PL's target is much broader but that suggests more, not less rational thinking.
To Leicester...
Are you 2 in arbitration here :)
You should read it, it's very good. He essentially outlines the whole CFG idea in it before that was a thing.:) I wasn't being entirely serious, but no I didn't read it. I am sure it was very well-written, though. Consultants are very good at writing the things people want to hear.
And yes I know a little about the airline. Iirc, his conviction and sanctions were reversed on appeal?
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Which problems the club has faced ? We have been very successful on and off the pitch the pitch stuff is other people’s area and joint decisions. Aside from this case off the pitch has been amazing. This case has been out of his control in some respects and so far he has been winning CAS APT
Don't really want to derail the thread with Soriano ranting, but if you want to start a new thread, I will give it a good go :)
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You should read it, it's very good. He essentially outlines the whole CFG idea in it before that was a thing.
You have almost convinced me to read it. Is it just a description of a football related shared services concept (which would be less interesting for me as I have seen so many of those non-football related in my lifetime), or does it address the development into a broader entertainment group (with things like Sony, for example, or Disney or whoever which would be much more interesting)? Could be worth a read if it's the latter because I reckon that's where the value will be.
What the hell, I'll get the book and read it. Hope it's better than the title :)
Don't know what you are referring to re 0 LEI.See below. But first, a very important legal question. What does the 0 after LEI mean?
1. For the information required by the rules, yes. For information from third parties?
3. View attachment 141530
Don't think the 186 is saying the disciplinary is about RPTs - it may be but can't read such a redaction that way. I ask again though why the PL wouldn't have challenged the none RPT status of Etihad in any year since 2009 but make it a point in 2023. And if so, why not add a breach of the true and fair for each season since 2017/18 on this basis.
City would have engaged with whatever was a) required b) they felt served their purposes to convince the PL to cease the investigation. But it would not provide documents that would open up disclosure routes down the line ie it would only disclose documents it was always going to have to disclose if it went further.