PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bluemanchester]

Can we please spell naïve correctly please? Thank you.

It will be considered inessential by the two learned posters, but well done for pointing it out;-)

 

[Maly]

- irrelevant really
- irrelevant
- sloppy but irrelevant
- I think the allegation is that City concealed matters so should also suffer the consequences of that in all rules if proven

I don't think any of these play to the question of ignoring legal advice on the City charges. But as I said, perhaps I am just naive.

Firstly, thank you so much for your legal input into this thread. It’s been enlightening say the least

I’d certainly not call you naive, but some of our opposition have been proven to not play with a straight bat, shouldn’t the be taken into consideration, regardless of their standing in the business world?

It’s been proven that FSG certainly have a history of not playing by the rules in the US & UK, Joe Lewis at Tottenham definitely doesn’t, Abramovich didn’t, Kroenke doesn’t

(Don’t know about any other owners)

So there’s 4 clubs with owners whom have all had a history of not playing by the rules

Plus we have the hateful 8 letter, again indicating that some of our fellow PL shareholders aren’t playing fair

So I suppose my question is, could a number of clubs, let’s say 8 for arguments sake, put pressure on the PL to follow this through regardless?

Or do I need more/less meds?

 

[Tevez City]

Do you think City will be relegated ? @slbsn

 

[TheGhost]

Do you think City will be relegated ? @slbsn

<puts head in hands>

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Firstly, thank you so much for your legal input into this thread. It’s been enlightening say the least

I’d certainly not call you naive, but some of our opposition have been proven to not play with a straight bat, shouldn’t the be taken into consideration, regardless of their standing in the business world?

It’s been proven that FSG certainly have a history of not playing by the rules in the US & UK, Joe Lewis at Tottenham definitely doesn’t, Abramovich didn’t, Kroenke doesn’t

(Don’t know about any other owners)

So there’s 4 clubs with owners whom have all had a history of not playing by the rules

Plus we have the hateful 8 letter, again indicating that some of our fellow PL shareholders aren’t playing fair

So I suppose my question is, could a number of clubs, let’s say 8 for arguments sake, put pressure on the PL to follow this through regardless?

Or do I need more/less meds?

I would also add that the timing of PL announcements plays into this cynicism. They tend to be on the eve of big games. Again, suggestive of an agenda by the clubs that form part of the PL and are calling the shots.

 

[Tevez City]

<puts head in hands>

Just wanted to know what he expect the final outcome will be :)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Firstly, thank you so much for your legal input into this thread. It’s been enlightening say the least

I’d certainly not call you naive, but some of our opposition have been proven to not play with a straight bat, shouldn’t the be taken into consideration, regardless of their standing in the business world?

It’s been proven that FSG certainly have a history of not playing by the rules in the US & UK, Joe Lewis at Tottenham definitely doesn’t, Abramovich didn’t, Kroenke doesn’t

(Don’t know about any other owners)

So there’s 4 clubs with owners whom have all had a history of not playing by the rules

Plus we have the hateful 8 letter, again indicating that some of our fellow PL shareholders aren’t playing fair

So I suppose my question is, could a number of clubs, let’s say 8 for arguments sake, put pressure on the PL to follow this through regardless?

Or do I need more/less meds?

Let's not forget that the PL had legal advice that shareholder soft loans should be included within its Associated Party Transaction rules. Yet it chose to ignore that advice at the behest of the chairman of one of its members.

I don't think it's inconceivable therefore that some of their members played a crucial part in their decision to pursue this action against us. Legal opinion should have played a part of course but as I said earlier, the concept of utmost good faith is a very elastic and subjective one. Lawyers have been known to bring or support some very weird cases at times.

 

[mike1923]

Firstly, thank you so much for your legal input into this thread. It’s been enlightening say the least

I’d certainly not call you naive, but some of our opposition have been proven to not play with a straight bat, shouldn’t the be taken into consideration, regardless of their standing in the business world?

It’s been proven that FSG certainly have a history of not playing by the rules in the US & UK, Joe Lewis at Tottenham definitely doesn’t, Abramovich didn’t, Kroenke doesn’t

(Don’t know about any other owners)

So there’s 4 clubs with owners whom have all had a history of not playing by the rules

Plus we have the hateful 8 letter, again indicating that some of our fellow PL shareholders aren’t playing fair

So I suppose my question is, could a number of clubs, let’s say 8 for arguments sake, put pressure on the PL to follow this through regardless?

Or do I need more/less meds?

They could I suppose, if they were happy knowing they’re picking up 1/20th of the tab for a doomed lot of legal costs

 

[slbsn]

Not sure I would characterise that as a small mistake. I’d be mortified to be associated with it, and I’d be surprised if you weren’t too.

I would but being embarrassed by it but it having any tangible impact or indication of their team as a whole? Nah.

 

[slbsn]

Firstly, thank you so much for your legal input into this thread. It’s been enlightening say the least

I’d certainly not call you naive, but some of our opposition have been proven to not play with a straight bat, shouldn’t the be taken into consideration, regardless of their standing in the business world?

It’s been proven that FSG certainly have a history of not playing by the rules in the US & UK, Joe Lewis at Tottenham definitely doesn’t, Abramovich didn’t, Kroenke doesn’t

(Don’t know about any other owners)

So there’s 4 clubs with owners whom have all had a history of not playing by the rules

Plus we have the hateful 8 letter, again indicating that some of our fellow PL shareholders aren’t playing fair

So I suppose my question is, could a number of clubs, let’s say 8 for arguments sake, put pressure on the PL to follow this through regardless?

Or do I need more/less meds?

You can separate the PL from those clubs. The PL is under pressure but I still trust it not to have been totally idiotic and folded only to certain club pressures - perhaps in commencing the investigation but surely not in deciding to charge and doing so against legal advice. That is really very unlikely.