PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

How would you know how passive or defensive we were during the hearing? Just asking...
Apologies, poor English from me. I meant if we were purely passive and defensive. It will make a huge difference to the public reaction if we have gone all out attack with hard evidence the PL and the puppet Masters are governing on behalf of the red cartel competitor clubs. I think most people have assumed we were entirely defensive, they maybe wrong. I was trying to engage on the fallout of City, within the psuedo Judicial setting of the hearing, of accusing the governing body of corruption. So our counter attack would be as serious as the egregious charges we are facing.
it seems noone is biting, I'm off to the game, let's hope we have a BAU win today, see what I did there...
 
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I've said it before & i'll say it again, this thread is bonkers, a good read but nonetheless, still bonkers.
The highs and the lows, the "we're fucked " to "we're innocent" posts from a multitude of posters.
The seemingly sound advice from a few posters with experience in this field to the insane ramblings of other posters.
None of us really knows how this will all end, we obviously all have our opinions but we're all completely in the dark in reality & haven't got a fucking scoobies what the final outcome will be.......8081 pages & counting shows that ha
I think most contributors or readers of this thread expect us to be found at least partially guilty at some point.
It’s not how well or not we have adapted to the rules that irks most of us, it is the fact the rules were put in place to hinder City’s progress at the behest of teams that historically mostly have had financial injections of there own.
I am at the point where I will celebrate our innocence or walk away from the game altogether.
The incessant fiddling with the rules, VAR, woke terraces, and the lack of physicality in todays game is all leading me away anyhow, this might just be the final nail for me and many more.
CTID
 
I think most contributors or readers of this thread expect us to be found at least partially guilty at some point.
It’s not how well or not we have adapted to the rules that irks most of us, it is the fact the rules were put in place to hinder City’s progress at the behest of teams that historically mostly have had financial injections of there own.
I am at the point where I will celebrate our innocence or walk away from the game altogether.
The incessant fiddling with the rules, VAR, woke terraces, and the lack of physicality in todays game is all leading me away anyhow, this might just be the final nail for me and many more.
CTID
Bang on.
 
Personally, I think the best thing to do is not to overdo the idea of PL bias or incompetence. In the scale of City’s defence team you can see City themselves took no chances and have treated it as seriously as possible.
That might well be to do with the seriousness of the possible consequences, as much as, or rather than, the seriousness of the charges.
 
Personally, I think the best thing to do is not to overdo the idea of PL bias or incompetence. In the scale of City’s defence team you can see City themselves took no chances and have treated it as seriously as possible.
Agreed. Myself I've never leaned heavily into the incompetence angle. Nor do I subscribe to the idea of the panel being biased. But I am 100% convinced that the Prem have come from a bad place.

City have had no other choice but to treat it seriously. They know full well the intent and craft of their accusers...
 
Last answer on this.

I’m afraid that the idea this whole thing has been some kind of half arsed prosecution or process is just wishful thinking.

If only these charges were about whether a party was related. I suspect the use of related there is a natural consequence of the main charge. If actually only £8m was Etihad and the whole thing was orchestrated by SM then inevitably Etihad was a RP because it would have been found that SM had controlled the whole thing. Your argument (and few others) seems to have the RP as a distinct main charge. That’s the disagreement - sadly I’m pretty certain the charges are simply far more serious than that. Hopefully you are right and they just ran a 12 week hearing to try and prove a highly subjective accounting point where evidence exists that even if RP, the main sponsor was FMV. Clearly, pretty unlikely even if the PL are as incompetent as you insist.

That’s been exactly my interpretation from the start too.
 
I spend a lot of time reading this thread but don’t post very often. However today I’m giving it a go. I particularly want to address the viewpoint of some, which I think is flawed and that is the trust in the legitimacy of the case against City and why the case was launched.
I don’t have the legal or accounting background of some on here, although I do have experience in 2 areas, that I think can throw a little light on some matters. Firstly I have run a successful business, in a field that was highly competitive and self regulated. Secondly within that field I was an elected member of the board that regulated the industry in question and also a member of the panel that wrote the rule book . I won’t be naming the industry.
I know from personal experience how the rules and regulations can easily be influenced by individuals and individual businesses. I also know how the executive of an industry can be completely manipulated by the more powerful organisations it is supposed to represent and regulate. It’s so easy for me to see parallels with the way the PL is run and the industry I was involved in.
Admittedly the industry isn’t as big as football but it impacted on almost every person in the U.K.
I’ll give one small example of what I mean. A newcomer to the industry came up with a new way of doing business. This immediately threatened the business model of my company and others. To stop this newcomer in its tracks we changed the rules under which business could be done. We did this by seeking help from other board members we’d worked with in the past and collectively put pressure on the executive to act.
We also went to the government department associated with our industry and via our contacts there persuaded them that the newcomers business methods were in breach of government regulations, this was highly debatable but we’d worked with the people in charge for years and had close business relationships with them. We persuaded them the newcomers methods were going to be more trouble than they were worth and they acted accordingly.
Once we’d changed the rules and persuaded government to act we then attacked the integrity of the newcomer business with their clients and they soon gave up and went away.
The point I’m, probably badly, trying to make is that businesses protect their own interests and that in many fields, including I believe football, specific interests can easily be portrayed as “looking after the interests of all parties”. Also it’s so easy for big players to influence any self regulated industry.
Obviously there’s a lot more to the scenario above but I’m aware I’ve already rambled on.
PS I’m not proud of what we did but want people without experience of business to understand how the world can work.
Agree 100% - at root the PL action against City is just another example of a US cartel attempting to protect its revenue streams by seeking to legitimize their corrupt practices through the courts.
 
Agree 100% - at root the PL action against City is just another example of a US cartel attempting to protect its revenue streams by seeking to legitimize their corrupt practices through the courts.
Dont forget Henry asking throgh the media "what was the second highest bit"
When we agreed the Etihad deal.
It was not his to talke about others team contracts.
I knew from that moment that Liverpool was against City but I never thought they would go this far.
 

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