PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[WRicko]

Don't give the **** oxygen FFS.

Who is he

 

[cheekybids]

Masters has refused to comment on the case at all till this week. I think he knows he is losing and his claim that; “It’s up to the panel. We just enforce the rules,” is damage limitation.

Whilst his leadership is being questioned by the media…..

Scudamores stock is even higher.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Whilst his leadership is being questioned by the media…..

Scudamores stock is even higher.

Who is going to pick up the legal bill for both sides? This scandal is not as bad for obvious reasons but is on a similar scale to the Post Office scandal.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I actually don't mind the twitter posts on here. It's useful to know what arguments are being concocted so you can destroy them.

I stopped reading that Magic Hat post because the bullshit started so early(skim read the rest). That person always makes bold claims in the strongest terms possible, but never backs it up. It literally feels like smoke and mirrors when you're reading it, because it is.

Oh wait... Magic Hat? Is it a parody account and we're all being clarkied?

"Look at my hands there's nothing in my hands... Everything I say is 100% real and not just want I want you to believe and spread all over the internet because I have a vendetta against City"

He's claiming CAS agreed the emails were real(really? wow) and unambiguous. That last part is bullshit because City provided the context which der Spiegel and UEFA got wrong.

He goes on to say that CAS made a 'finding of fact that the emails stated the planned intention to subvert FFP'. It's worded wierdly, probably because it's more magic hat smoke and mirrors. The "finding of fact" is the setup to make you believe CAS agreed the emails proved there was a planned intention to subvert FFP. He doesn't show you a quote from CAS(which should be a minimum requirement) where they said this, instead expecting you to take what he says at face value.

The next section gets worse. He moans "CAS was a farce" but must think the 'Independent' CFCB of UEFA's investigation and arbitration was totally legit and that decision should have stood? Next he's claiming UEFA messed up by only using a fraction of the emails available(bullshit again) and that's why the PL case will be different. I disagree, none of the emails released since seem to strengthen the case on the main allegation. The other stuff is either a new allegation that UEFA didn't attempt(probably because it was seen as a none starter) or no more believable than it was before. At any rate, he doesn't seem to undertand the emails alone would never meet the required standard of proof. They were only ever a reason to investigate to find actual evidence of what they think has occured, based on their interpretation of what was said in them. Yes there definitely are multiple interpretations, the correct context is key and only City truly knows it.

Then he's claiming CAS didn't apply the correct standard of proof, which is bullshit again. Since they were the ones that essentially pointed out UEFA failed to prove any of their claims to the standard required(swiss civil law, comfortable satisfaction) for the allegations that weren't time-barred. Or based on a trumped up non-cooperation charge which City didn't really deny, they claimed they had good reason and I agree with them. UEFA did not apply due process, never looked likely after UEFA leaked information before it even got to arbitration. They breached trust, broke their own confidentiality agreement, and most likely ignored a 200page document of evidence in City's defence(not interested in the truth, only making the charges stick by any means necessary).

I'm not a law or finance expert but from what I do know about CAS and the emails in question, I can spot his bullshit a mile off. Come to think of it, it does remind me of a certain twitter journalist.

The question is:

Is he really that pitifully informed/delusional/incompetant for something he spends so much time and effort convincing everyone he's an expert on?

Or

Is it more that he thinks most people are idiots and will believe anything he tells them, if he sells it hard enough?

It's been a while since I've read the CAS report, but my understanding was that UEFA and Der Spiegel had laughably got some of the interpretations about the emails wrong, and where there was ambivalence there was no other evidence outside of the emails and witness statements and banking transfers for the defence. They made the point that even if the emails were talking about doing something bad there would need to be more evidence to show that someone actually did the bad thing.

 

[halfcenturyup]

It is obviously someone who is mentally ill. We have all seen the emails and the CAS statement.

So it is Nick Harris?

 

[Stoned Rose]

Liam said to Magic hat

One thing you can never accuse Liam of is TLDR :)

 

[Stoned Rose]

Does anyone know who this guy is

Yes we all know who this is.

You would be best placed to not respond to it, not repost it anywhere or send it to anyone.

Do not give this little **** any oxygen.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Initially I thought it was that **** who blocks everyone nick harriss, but it could be ray parlour

Ray Parlour wouldn’t know what a hat is, never mind what any of those words mean.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Yes we all know who this is.

You would be best placed to not respond to it, not repost it anywhere and send it to anyone.

Do not give this little **** any oxygen.

I particularly enjoyed the little drama between the alter egos to try and persuade everyone they were different people. Classic psycopathy. Serious issues going on there.

 

[cheekybids]

I particularly enjoyed the little drama between the alter egos to try and persuade everyone they were different people. Classic psycopathy. Serious issues going on there.

I reckon the crackpot would have changed his outfits for each identity…..