PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Hopefully now we’ve turned to shit they’ll go easy on us as we’re no longer a threat to their beloved red cartel -;)
 
chaddblue said:
Hopefully now we’ve turned to shit they’ll go easy on us as we’re no longer a threat to their beloved red cartel -;)
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Are you in anyway suggesting us now being shit whilst the case is ongoing could be some elaborate ploy?

We go so bad the Premier Leagues lawyers think what’s the point and take it easy :P

Sort of the best defence is a really shit defence.
 
M18CTID said:
You could spin that the other way to be fair in that the PL's evidence isn't irrefutable either!

Or it could be that the amount of evidence the panel need to sift through - irrefutable or otherwise - means that this was always going to take several months or more for both the hearing and subsequent write-up and verdict, even if it turns out to be a slam dunk for either side.

There are people far better qualified than me on this forum who know their onions with this type of thing but I've never been convinced by this theory that the quicker the hearing ended the better it is for us, so I'm quite relaxed if this takes another 12 months or more before we get to know the outcome. Of course, I want to know sooner as does everybody else but we don't get to decide the timeline on these things.
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The premier league just need to subscribe to Magic Harris, download the email called “smoking gun” & drop it in front of the panel & say “your honour that concludes the case for the prosecution…”
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
There may be perfectly valid reasons for that. It isn’t unusual for there to be a hiatus between the conclusion of the evidence and closing arguments. Four weeks isn’t unheard of if diaries get in the way.
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Would that normally allow for settlements to be agreed in a less vindictive case? Both sides have heard the evidence & should know how it’s gone before closing.
 
wolviedinho said:
I have no sympathy for the league.

All this could have been avoided if they had just accepted the CAS decision.

Fight to the bitter end it seems.

Hopefully we know more in 3 months.

Gonna feel like an eternity.
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Might have wanted to but the Cartel decided otherwise! Might be nothing in it but an interesting testimonial to Roberto on the official site. Why do it now ? Has he given evidence?
 
pauls said:
Might have wanted to but the Cartel decided otherwise! Might be nothing in it but an interesting testimonial to Roberto on the official site. Why do it now ? Has he given evidence?
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Lol

Couple quid heading his way via a consulting role to pep via Abu Dhabi first bank.

Introducing our new defence coach Roberto Mankini -:)
 
wolviedinho said:
I have no sympathy for the league.

All this could have been avoided if they had just accepted the CAS decision.

Fight to the bitter end it seems.

Hopefully we know more in 3 months.

Gonna feel like an eternity.
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It’s achieved part of its task,smear City and paint them as cheats regardless,this whole sham is at the bequest of those running the premier league the cartel..
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
You mean breached some rules that didn’t exist a decade or so back? Why City fans persist in using these legal terms spouted by the press is beyond me. We’re not in Magistrates or Crown Court.

For the most serious breaches, the implications are tantamount to fraud. I’m just imagining the Police or other enforcement bodies hanging back whilst the crack investigation team at The Premier League do their thang.

I’ll worry when uniformed officers are pictured seizing computers at The Etihad stadium, Etihad Airways, Etisalat and Bobby Manc’s house.

The Premier League have produced a great product but when it comes to setting rules, their legality and enforcing them at the behest of their perceived cash cow clubs, they’re a joke.

That’s why I’m with Tolmie’s assertions.
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This for me is the key thing. What city are accused of is vast fraud/falsification of accounts, and if the 'evidence' met the threshold of legal proof then this would be a police/Interpol/HMRC and CPS matter. I'd have thought PL hearings would have to wait for the outcome of that to avoid prejudicing the legal process. So, I suppose the good news is the 115 are bollocks in legal terms, the worse news is that the PL as a private club are judge, jury and executioner and what counts as sufficient 'proof' may in that case be much less.
 
petrusha said:
First, I'd be very disappointed if City turn out actually to have done what's alleged, at least as regards any offence that, if made out, would be serious enough to entail a potential points deduction. I think it should have been easy enough for the club's execs to operate within the rules and still achieve their objectives.

Second, the PL will surely have more than the emails given the length of their investigation as well as the powers they had to demand documents and information. We have to assume they'll have uncovered during that process further pieces of evidence that they regard as bolstering the case against the club.
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It IS possible, that the club were operating within the rules, or were and still are convinced that is what they were doing. And that it is down to a matter of interpretation of detail rather than deliberate and conscious deceit as is alleged.

In the same way that for example the PL might not have set out to deliberately introduce unlawful ATP regulations, and thought, with legal advice that they had, that these were ok.

And that there is a version in which both of what you say above coexist.
 
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