Player Topic: Kevin De Bruyne (2015/16)

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FlemishDuck said:
No possesion.

Can't understand why the defense wern't putting more pressure on the Everton players neither, it was like they had been told to do few pressure.



Something we can put in about any players thread now.
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I like KDB but there is a real issue. He seems to lack the physicality to be effective against a side that presses. In this league you need to be able to be physical. I don't think I've ever seen him make a slide tackle. It's a real issue and he may never get near his Wolfsburg form because he's simply not suited to this league.
 
I can't help but think,Dzeko would of been more than grateful of a few of Kevs crosses.
Think he'd of filled his boots......IMO.
 
itisrising said:
I like KDB but there is a real issue. He seems to lack the physicality to be effective against a side that presses. In this league you need to be able to be physical. I don't think I've ever seen him make a slide tackle. It's a real issue and he may never get near his Wolfsburg form because he's simply not suited to this league.
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Aguero scored less than him this year and he's not exactly mr tough neither. Lets say that for KDB's lack of physicallity he luckily isn't made of glass neither.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Aguero scored less than him this year and he's not exactly mr tough neither. Lets say that for KDB's lack of physicallity he luckily isn't made of glass neither.
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Aguero can atleast push back and there are many examples of him getting stuck in.

KdB seems genuinely afraid of making an actual tackle or going shoulder to shoulder with a player. For all his strengths, it's imperative that you are able to be physical in this league.

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This, right here, is ridiculous!
 
itisrising said:
Aguero can atleast push back and there are many examples of him getting stuck in.

KdB seems genuinely afraid of making an actual tackle or going shoulder to shoulder with a player. For all his strengths, it's imperative that you are able to be physical in this league.



This, right here, is ridiculous!
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Perhaps you have a point, but you should atleast then concede that i have a point as well regarding Ageurro getting injured/being out half the season so fare whereas KDB has been playing and scoring for many games. I can agree to fair arguments but don't be sellective now.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Perhaps you have a point, but you should atleast then concede that i have a point as well regarding Ageurro getting injured all the time whereas KDB has been playing and scoring for many games. I can agree to fair arguments but don't be sellective now.
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But then we're talking about two different things. It's really the willingness to get stuck in that annoys me. Aguero gets injured, but I can't criticise him for that, it's out of his control. KdB, on the other hand, simply isn't willing or is afraid of getting stuck in and that's a criticism. He plays best when teams don't press him which so happens to be at home but away from home, when players do press further up and put pressure, he can't do well. It's a massive issue and may highlight that he isn't suited to this league.
 
So so over rated. He's a slick player at times but 50+ million pounds for him is criminal.
 
Looks like a total wimp. He looks like he wouldn't fancy an 80-20 challenge in his favour against an under 9s player.

Another poor away game from him tonight too.

Is it me, or does he just not really suit our team that much despite being a decent player with loads of good touches and passes in his game?
 
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itisrising said:
But then we're talking about two different things.
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No we arn't. This argument started with the supposed notion that KDB wasn't up for the physicallity of this league. How people come up with that for a player who scored 10 and made another 10 assists is beyond me. Maybe he isn't the most agressive tackler, but it seems a pretty ignorant statement to me to say that he isn't cut out for this league with those stats in mind. In that sense the comparison to Aguero seemed more than valid to me.

And were stil taking about offensive wingers here. This is about the last spot on a pitch where you are supposed to find physicallity. But if a "weak" winger is bancing and providing, what else matters? Oh yes consistency away from home, that i can agree too, just don't forget to apply youre standards to the rest of the team too and start with the most egregrious cases.
 
At one point a ball came out to him from a corner and he just put his arms out to protect himself rather than challenge for the ball....It was like watching the zombies run past the sick kid in World War Z
 
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Armaan said:
So so over rated. He's a slick player at times but 50+ million pounds for him is criminal.
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Lets see how fast city gets their money back when putting him for sale. Would anyone want to pay good money for the assist king of 2015?

Here's my hint to our Kev, if MC gives him too much shit regardless of what he has contribute so far, leave for better pastures and don't look back. For if you guys don't want him around then it's a win win for everyone right? Anyone would want to wager what sort of teams he could pretty much start tommorow for?
 
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FlemishDuck said:
No we arn't. This argument started with the supposed notion that KDB wasn't up for the physicallity of this league. How people come up with that for a player who scored 10 and made another 10 assists is beyond me. Maybe he isn't the most agressive tackler, but it seems a pretty ignorant statement to me to say that he isn't cut out for this league with those stats in mind. In that sense the comparison to Aguero seemed more than valid to me.

And were stil taking about offensive wingers here. This is about the last spot on a pitch where you are supposed to find physicallity. But if a "weak" winger is bancing and providing, what else matters? Oh yes consistency away from home, that i can agree too, just don't forget to apply youre standards to the rest of the team too and start with the most egregrious cases.
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We are talking about different things. I'm talking about a willingness to get 'stuck in' while you're referring to injuries which doesn't tell me either way whether somebody is willing to get physical.

Those stats are great, but against sides that press he struggles. It's just a fact. That's the reason why his performance aren't as good away from home. He's a great player but without the physicality he just won't ever be amazing against high-pressure sides. And it does matter. KdB plays as a winger that comes inside and can drop deep, he is basically the first line of defence. If he got stuck in, then a number of the attacks against us would've been broken down. We shouldn't be signing players that physcially aren't strong enough.
 
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Don't think anyone's advocating selling him but there is no denying he's not the bravest.
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Won't deny that. don't think he's the exception at that for a winger neither. If this thread was all fair arguments i wouldn't object so much and we could rationally look at what points he needs to improve, but i don't think he deserve's the shitstorm for tonight.

We shouldn't be signing players that physcially aren't strong enough.
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Then lets do Kev a favour and sell, for i think he could shine for plenty of top teams withought needing to be a physical winger with strong agression. here i'm not denying that the PL is rather physical, but neither is it the norm of top leagues and teams that their wingers should be.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Won't deny that. don't think he's the exception at that for a winger neither. If this thread was all fair arguments i wouldn't object so much and we could rationally look at what points he needs to improve, but i don't think he deserve's the shitstorm for tonight.
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Why not ? he get's the accolades when he plays well but by fuck he was poor tonight,granted he wasn't the only one but this is his thread. Over on the other threads there are several other players getting it too.
 
B\connellblue said:
Why not ? he get's the accolades when he plays well but by fuck he was poor tonight,granted he wasn't the only one but this is his thread. Over on the other threads there are several other players getting it too.
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Mind you, i was one to say that he would have lesser days too when people were all drooling and calling him better than Silva after he played 5 matches. If i personally can be more nuanced than others in the good days, can i be so too in the bad days? Or do i need to conform to a city culture where it's all praises high to the sky with a win and a fecies throwing fest when not?
 
itisrising said:
We are talking about different things.
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We were talking regarding physicallity and suitabillety for this league, you started the argument with this:

itisrising said:
he's simply not suited to this league.
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Which seems to me a difficult proposition for a player that bagged 10 and assisted 10 halfway trough the season while many other of our best players have been sidelined with injury's. Again i can agree that he isn't the most physical, but thats a different arguement too than youre notion that he's not "fit for this league".
 
OMG! We have paid more than £50M for the biggest loser ever in the EPL. We should sell him for £20M asap! This kid destroys our football. Before he came in the team, we won everything. And now we lose games, so it can only be his fault! This guy isn't even good enough for Wolfsburg, Wolfsburg fans are laughing with the large present we gave to their team. Wolfsburg is so much better now without him and we play worse.

Wolfsburg is doing better now in the Champions League than last season. Maybe because this overrated sh*t player is gone, so their players are tackling now to get the ball! DE BRUYNE OUT! DE BRUYNE OUT!
 
De Bruyne and Otamendi two of Europe's finest last season. 20 games under Manuel and they both look ropey (just like every player in the squad) yet our fans think they are shit.

Just like Boateng who was also "shit" according to our fans.
 
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