meeesh
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Problem is though the manager has not got a clue,and that thought would have never crossed his mind,mores the pity,I said in the match thread to get Toure hooked at HT,but he never does
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Player Topic: Kevin De Bruyne (2015/16)
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Problem is though the manager has not got a clue,and that thought would have never crossed his mind,mores the pity,I said in the match thread to get Toure hooked at HT,but he never does
Doesn't he read your posts?Problem is though the manager has not got a clue,and that thought would have never crossed his mind,mores the pity,I said in the match thread to get Toure hooked at HT,but he never does
meeesh
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Doesn't he read your posts?
He don't listen to no ****
tolmie's hairdoo
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Problem is though the manager has not got a clue,and that thought would have never crossed his mind,mores the pity,I said in the match thread to get Toure hooked at HT,but he never does
He makes us fight with one hand behind our backs on a regular basis by including Toure from the start/away games.
That lack of foresight is only compounded when he then can't see what is taking place on the pitch.
Manuel is famed for his loyalty towards players, so you would have thought he would be now getting back in spades from his teams?
The reason he isn't, is because they either can't (Yaya/perm any one of seven) or won't.
meeesh
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He makes us fight with one hand behind our backs on a regular basis by including Toure from the start/away games.
That lack of foresight is only compounded when he then can't see what is taking place on the pitch.
Manuel is famed for his loyalty towards players, so you would have thought he would be now getting back in spades from his teams?
The reason he isn't, is because they either can't (Yaya/perm any one of seven) or won't.
The loyalty he showed with Navas has gone away,he's often coming from the bench these days,remarkable really considering the impact he had on Saturday,and again last night,wonder if he starts this Saturday though ?
He's also scared to death to drop Yaya,and is too blind to see how he's becoming a passenger every game now
I agree. Everything points to Toure. The games we lose are away or those played at a high tempo. And yet he could be an asset if used properlyHe makes us fight with one hand behind our backs on a regular basis by including Toure from the start/away games.
That lack of foresight is only compounded when he then can't see what is taking place on the pitch.
Manuel is famed for his loyalty towards players, so you would have thought he would be now getting back in spades from his teams?
The reason he isn't, is because they either can't (Yaya/perm any one of seven) or won't.
Awful management.
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KDB is burned out . Why does Pelle start him every game is beyond me.
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It's quite simple. KDB loves to play center midfield behind the forward and there he is best. He came here to share game time with Silva and Yaya.
Would Yaya be the old cracking Yaya, KDB would help out on the wings. What he does most of the time, watching what Yaya does in CM. Must be frustrating for KDB. Yaya now is the 3rd best No.10 in the City squad and should only play some home matches. If needed at all.
That's how it is. But the manager doesn't want to change his mind and is defending Yaya ("he is running most."). Denying the facts mentioned above. That would be bad management and dangerous for the club. Responsible for all that must be the director of sports or some kind of advisory board.
In what way do they take influence on the team manager? Any thoughts?
Would Yaya be the old cracking Yaya, KDB would help out on the wings. What he does most of the time, watching what Yaya does in CM. Must be frustrating for KDB. Yaya now is the 3rd best No.10 in the City squad and should only play some home matches. If needed at all.
That's how it is. But the manager doesn't want to change his mind and is defending Yaya ("he is running most."). Denying the facts mentioned above. That would be bad management and dangerous for the club. Responsible for all that must be the director of sports or some kind of advisory board.
In what way do they take influence on the team manager? Any thoughts?
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I would agree that we are not a balanced team but i don't think this is KDB's fault. I think that at the moment, KDB deserves to be starting ahead of Silva.
Yaya is also a massive problem, delph isn't good enough to start every game but a team like this would make us so much more balanced.
.....................Hart...................
Sagna....Kompany.....Otamendi.....Kolarov
.........Fernandinho....Delph.........
Navas...........KDB.........Sterling....
...............Aguero............
Yaya is also a massive problem, delph isn't good enough to start every game but a team like this would make us so much more balanced.
.....................Hart...................
Sagna....Kompany.....Otamendi.....Kolarov
.........Fernandinho....Delph.........
Navas...........KDB.........Sterling....
...............Aguero............
I would agree that we are not a balanced team but i don't think this is KDB's fault. I think that at the moment, KDB deserves to be starting ahead of Silva.
Yaya is also a massive problem, delph isn't good enough to start every game but a team like this would make us so much more balanced.
.....................Hart...................
Sagna....Kompany.....Otamendi.....Kolarov
.........Fernandinho....Delph.........
Navas...........KDB.........Sterling....
...............Aguero............
Or with Sterling on the right and Silva on the left.
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Just a quick note for those who say he's not pulling his weight defensively. In his first couple of games he was the guy with the most number of miles run, a feat you can't accomplish just by playing forward. So back then he was... what happened since then?
In the Flemish press there was a mention of some bad blood between Silva and KDB, could that play a part in this, both striving to play in the same position?
Anyway, if Pellegrini's loyalty to his 'routine' players is something to go on, that would mean Silva and Yaya will start most of the games, leaving the likes of KDB and Delph frustrated with the situation.
So maybe it's time to come up with a solution where both Silva and KDB feel appreciated and play to their full potential.
In the Flemish press there was a mention of some bad blood between Silva and KDB, could that play a part in this, both striving to play in the same position?
Anyway, if Pellegrini's loyalty to his 'routine' players is something to go on, that would mean Silva and Yaya will start most of the games, leaving the likes of KDB and Delph frustrated with the situation.
So maybe it's time to come up with a solution where both Silva and KDB feel appreciated and play to their full potential.
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Or with Sterling on the right and Silva on the left.
Im not sure because that would leave Kolarov extremely exposed on the left
There's lots of moaning about individual players not pulling their weight but are they actually going on to the pitch with specific instructions? I get the feeling a team is picked an dee go out and play without any real insight into the opposition and the ways we can exploit their deficiencies and certainly not what we can do to stop them. The biggest issue - and it's what is making the whole team struggle is the defence. You can't tell me that they are bad players, even Mangala can look fantastic at times, it's just that there seems to be no defensive coaching whatsoever except for keeping that high line. The first thing a good manager would do organise our team defensively. I'm not harping back to Mancini but the guy new how to have a loss platform to allow the like of De Bruyne to play.
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Nice piece on deBruyne here (from a consistently good writer)
Kevin De Bruyne: Value Demonstration
http://thepremierleagueowl.com/kevin-de-bruyne-value-demonstration/
Kevin De Bruyne: Value Demonstration
http://thepremierleagueowl.com/kevin-de-bruyne-value-demonstration/
malg
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Yep. He's going to be frighteningly good.Next season this bloke is going to be fucking immense for us :-)
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He is an all or nothing player. He doesn't really effect games unless he is scoring or assisting. He doesn't help us control the tempo of the game like Silva can or even like Toure does (or at least tries to do). He is a final third type of player, a final ball sort of player. When he final balls aren't met with goals or chances, or when he isn't scoring himself, his output looks fairly non existent.
He's the sort of player who can have a stinker but come away with two assists. He rarely has a blinder yet has zero goal assisting stats to back it up.
At home, we commit more men forward, and the opposition also sit a little deeper so we have more bodies in and around the penalty box. He is in the final third more often where he can set up goals. Away from home, we fail to gain the territorial advantage which would allow us to pen a team inside their own half for an extended period of time. We started off last night like we could do that, and De Bruyne looked bright, but that only really lasted for 15 minutes.
On top of that, he doesn't retain possession well. Everything he does is almost designed to make a visible difference, so with that comes a risk of losing the ball. If he is only getting on the ball every 5 or 6 minutes, 2 or 3 misplaced passes or a piece of poor control can lead to him becoming withdrawn from the game.
Personally, he needs to play more narrower and closer to the ball players in our team (Silva and Toure). Let the full back become the width. That way he will get on the ball a bit more than he is. From there we can gain some form of territorial advantage and attempt to pen the opposition in. On top of that, considering we are unlikely to replace Yaya this January, we need to help him and channel some of our transitions through Delph and Fernandinho. Because Yaya is so obviously our pivot in midfield, the opposition can double press and close him down before he is even able to turn with the ball. This leads to us losing the ball in our own third and can lead to extended periods of play where none of our attacking players even get on the ball. As a result, Silva drop deeper and isolates Aguero.
As with all top quality attacking midfielders, the key to their performance is down to getting them on the ball in the final third. At the minute we are relying on one player to turn possession in our own third to possession in the final third (Yaya, or at a push Silva, if he drops deeper). We need our other two central midfielders to contribute with the ball. For all their tenacity and eagerness to intercept, we need more from them with the ball.
For me, Pellegrini falls into the trap that many others do where he believes Yaya needs covering with 'legs' when in reality he needs to be playing alongside 2 other ball playing midfielders. If he is such a liability when we don't have the ball, we need players who are capable of retaining it under pressure. At the moment, we only have about 4 in our standard starting 11. I'm sure we'll get the other 7 when Pep gets here.
He's the sort of player who can have a stinker but come away with two assists. He rarely has a blinder yet has zero goal assisting stats to back it up.
At home, we commit more men forward, and the opposition also sit a little deeper so we have more bodies in and around the penalty box. He is in the final third more often where he can set up goals. Away from home, we fail to gain the territorial advantage which would allow us to pen a team inside their own half for an extended period of time. We started off last night like we could do that, and De Bruyne looked bright, but that only really lasted for 15 minutes.
On top of that, he doesn't retain possession well. Everything he does is almost designed to make a visible difference, so with that comes a risk of losing the ball. If he is only getting on the ball every 5 or 6 minutes, 2 or 3 misplaced passes or a piece of poor control can lead to him becoming withdrawn from the game.
Personally, he needs to play more narrower and closer to the ball players in our team (Silva and Toure). Let the full back become the width. That way he will get on the ball a bit more than he is. From there we can gain some form of territorial advantage and attempt to pen the opposition in. On top of that, considering we are unlikely to replace Yaya this January, we need to help him and channel some of our transitions through Delph and Fernandinho. Because Yaya is so obviously our pivot in midfield, the opposition can double press and close him down before he is even able to turn with the ball. This leads to us losing the ball in our own third and can lead to extended periods of play where none of our attacking players even get on the ball. As a result, Silva drop deeper and isolates Aguero.
As with all top quality attacking midfielders, the key to their performance is down to getting them on the ball in the final third. At the minute we are relying on one player to turn possession in our own third to possession in the final third (Yaya, or at a push Silva, if he drops deeper). We need our other two central midfielders to contribute with the ball. For all their tenacity and eagerness to intercept, we need more from them with the ball.
For me, Pellegrini falls into the trap that many others do where he believes Yaya needs covering with 'legs' when in reality he needs to be playing alongside 2 other ball playing midfielders. If he is such a liability when we don't have the ball, we need players who are capable of retaining it under pressure. At the moment, we only have about 4 in our standard starting 11. I'm sure we'll get the other 7 when Pep gets here.
Yep. He's going to be frighteningly good.
We'll see.
KDB passing accuracy 76%, only 70% away from home. Silva 87% Yaya 88% and Fenandinho 89%. Worst on the team except for Hart. Only KDB and Bony in the 70's. That is simply not good enough. As i have said many times he gives the ball away too cheaply. But yes has a great cross on him at times.
High risk, high benefit. You can't quote some stats and ignore others - goals and assists. He'll be awesome.KDB passing accuracy 76%, only 70% away from home. Silva 87% Yaya 88% and Fenandinho 89%. Worst on the team except for Hart. Only KDB and Bony in the 70's. That is simply not good enough. As i have said many times he gives the ball away too cheaply. But yes has a great cross on him at times.
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