Players faking injuries.

Stephen230 said:
They don't fall for it every time. They know what's going on. But they are referees not doctors. And even if the were, the very best doctors would struggle to diagnose from 30 yards away. They're in an impossible position. Being injured isn't a binary situation, where a player is either genuinely injured or is cheating, with nothing in between. If you asked referees to make a snap judgment on whether they believe a player is injured or not and produce a yellow card for the latter, it would in no time become the biggest farce we've ever seen. And eventually you'd end up with a player with a serious injury being booked and then the whole thing would blow up.
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The way around this is to get them off the pitch for a minimum of 5 minutes to ensure the correct diagnosis by a doctor/physio.. For all injuries ..
It would stop this cheating bollocks overnight …
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
Just bring in what they do in rugby. The physio comes on and the game continues. Problem solved.
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Bang on,

This fake injury bollocks is an epidemic,

A few people need reminding, fans pay a lot to watch, and professional footy is entertainment.

Fake injuries, VAR, substitutions all take too long.

Even set pieces take a fucking age these days.
 
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RadcliffeRick said:
The most annoying thing is holding their head when there has been no contact, they know the ref has to stop the game. It should be a mandatory 5 mins off the pitch for head injuries.
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Agreed. If the game needs to stop for a head injury then player welfare means they need to leave the field to be assessed by a doctor.
 
Blue Til Death said:
The way around this is to get them off the pitch for a minimum of 5 minutes to ensure the correct diagnosis by a doctor/physio.. For all injuries ..
It would stop this cheating bollocks overnight …
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The problem with any 'punishment' for suspected faking, is that you're also rewarding foul play that causes genuine injury.

Take it in turns kicking the star player. Yeah, pick up a few yellow cards. But he'll be spending half the game off the pitch, serving numerous assessment protocols.
 
ysmsa said:
Bang on,

This injury fake bollocks is an epidemic

A few people need reminding fans pay a lot to watch and professionally footy is entertainment.

Fake injuries, VAR, substations take too long.

Even set pieces take a fucking age these days.
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All the suggestions by various posters on this subject are good examples of common sense that should be applied to the sport, but the powers-that-be seem reluctant to employ them. It makes you wonder just what is going on in our games.
From the quite lamentable level of incompetence we see each week from our match officials, to the utterly bizarre inconsistencies we get from the var people, something has to be going on in the background that is being deliberately held from us, the people who pay the money to see the games, and we should demand complete transparency from those overseeing the day to day running of the sport.

It is almost farcical that given the amount of money the Premier league is making we have so much that is being hidden from us. I say 'almost farcical' because in reality it is no laughing matter.
Our footballing officials seem to answer to no one. They do not have to justify any decision they make to any of us - the supporters. We pay a lot of money to watch the game and hope for a fair distribution of the rules, but as we keep seeing time and time again when the referee -either through incompetence or something else- makes a wrong decision that costs your team, too bad. He isn't going to explain to you or I or anyone in the media. No, he goes back to the little closed shop Webb and his influential pals have created and maybe discusses the incident with his colleagues. We don't know, and we'll never know. But we do know that in the next series of games history will repeat itself, and once again us supporters will be tearing our hair out trying to understand why one team is punished if their player commits a foul, and yet another player can do the exact same thing -even in the same game- and the ref will ignore it.
 
Stephen230 said:
The problem with any 'punishment' for suspected faking, is that you're also rewarding foul play that causes genuine injury.

Take it in turns kicking the star player. Yeah, pick up a few yellow cards. But he'll be spending half the game off the pitch, serving numerous assessment protocols.
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Unless he gets up when fouled but not actually injured.. It’s not perfect but it’s a damn sight better than the shit show we currently endure week in week out ..
 
KentBlue said:
All the suggestions by various posters on this subject are good examples of common sense that should be applied to the sport, but the powers-that-be seem reluctant to employ them. It makes you wonder just what is going on in our games.
From the quite lamentable level of incompetence we see each week from our match officials, to the utterly bizarre inconsistencies we get from the var people, something has to be going on in the background that is being deliberately held from us, the people who pay the money to see the games, and we should demand complete transparency from those overseeing the day to day running of the sport.

It is almost farcical that given the amount of money the Premier league is making we have so much that is being hidden from us. I say 'almost farcical' because in reality it is no laughing matter.
Our footballing officials seem to answer to no one. They do not have to justify any decision they make to any of us - the supporters. We pay a lot of money to watch the game and hope for a fair distribution of the rules, but as we keep seeing time and time again when the referee -either through incompetence or something else- makes a wrong decision that costs your team, too bad. He isn't going to explain to you or I or anyone in the media. No, he goes back to the little closed shop Webb and his influential pals have created and maybe discusses the incident with his colleagues. We don't know, and we'll never know. But we do know that in the next series of games history will repeat itself, and once again us supporters will be tearing our hair out trying to understand why one team is punished if their player commits a foul, and yet another player can do the exact same thing -even in the same game- and the ref will ignore it.
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Out of interest, obviously we all noticed the 3rd screen that has gone in at the Etihad. It was used to explain the VAR decisions on Saturday.

Have those 2 Clubs, supposedly the 2 biggest in the UK if not the world (according to them) put any sort of replay screens in for this season?

I ask this all the time, but how can VAR be operated and explained fairly with the same explanations given for each team when those 2 didn't / don’t even have screens?
 
ysmsa said:
Out of interest, obviously we all noticed the 3rd screen that has gone in at the Etihad. It was used to explain the VAR decisions on Saturday.

Have those 2 Clubs, supposedly the 2 biggest in the UK if not the world (according to them) put any sort of replay screens in for this season?

I ask this all the time, but how can VAR be operated and explained fairly with the same explanations given for each team when those 2 didn't / don’t even have screens?
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I mean, the ref does his little 'Tele' sign and everyone in the ground knows he's reversing the original decision. Not really sure how it's 'fairer' if you get to read about it on a screen or not?
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Sounds an obvious solution, that works well with both codes of Rugby.
But, neither Rugby code has managers/coaches who would instruct their players to kick or dribble the ball into the injured player/physio - this stopping the game.
Football, unfortunately, has managers and players who will stop at nothing to cheat and make new rules unplayable...
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There's also a big difference in how quickly the area of play changes. In rugby, if someone is down in one part of the pitch, you can usually be pretty confident that the ball isn't coming back there any time soon. Also 1 out of 15 outfield players is less of a loss than 1 out of 10. You can be sure in football if a player was down injured, the other team would immediately take advantage by attacking the area they should be covering.

Let's be honest, what should happen is that they should just add the time onto the end of the game like they're supposed to. Like almost every other refereeing issue, the rules already exist to deal with it, they just choose to not apply them. Having said that, I think if the game stops with a head injury, there should be a mandatory period the player has to be off the pitch. First of all, that's necessary for the doctor to do the checks anyway and gets rid of the incentive for club doctors to just wave them back on, and secondly, it gets rid of the incentive to go down when you're not really injured. I also think they should be able to use VAR to give yellow cards in cases when someone goes down holding their head when there was clearly no head contact.
 
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