Players getting clobbered

Bluekiwi said:
I've watched our players get clobbered week in, week out. Most of the offenders don't even get cautioned. When they do it's usually just a yellow card. The tackle on Kun today deserved a red as it was a premeditated - "you are not getting past me so you're going down". The commentators on the feed I was watching both said Dann was lucky to stay on the pitch and he made the tackle because he was isolated. (He may even have been the last man).I'm not condoning Yaya's rash challenge a few minutes later but you could see that he was angry at the treatment that Kun got - fortunately he got his head back to sanity.
Someone in our management should take a leaf out of baconface's book and complain that our players are not getting the protection from crude challenges.
Manuel got more angry at Pardew stepping into his technical area than jumping up and down when Kun got scythed down.
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There's no such thing as "last man". Red cards in that case are through "denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity".

Red cards for tackles are for "dangerous" play as opposed to "reckless"(booking) or reds can be given for "violent conduct".

It wasn't a goal scoring opportunity but IMO it was a dangerous kick. It wasn't a slide, he wasn't going for the ball, he fucking booted him in a joint. Not only is that dangerous, it's violent conduct. That's a more dangerous act that swinging a punch at someone. Attacking the joint of an opponent is as bad as it gets.

But we give it out too. Yaya, Nasri and Mangala came in with very heavy tackles. Mangala himself attacked a joint when we swiped at their lad's ankle. But it still wasn't quite as bad as Dann's.
 
Besic on Sergio last season and now Dann on Sergio the other day. Managers are obviously telling their players to get rid of our biggest goal threat.
 
Sergio Picasso Aguero said:
Besic on Sergio last season and now Dann on Sergio the other day. Managers are obviously telling their players to get rid of our biggest goal threat.
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That one from Besic wasn't a bad tackle though. He just fouled him. It was just unfortunate he got injured. Dann's was a poor "tackle".
 
We miss a De Jong type in some games. I felt he won the midfield battle in the FA Cup final in the 1st 15 minutes after some very strong tackles from our Nigel.
 
malg said:
Players get kicked all the time. The Aguero one was bad, but you see tackles like that a lot, the problem was that he actually caught Aguero straight on the knee. Dan didn't mean to catch Aguero's knee, he just stuck his leg out. Like I said, it's part of football.
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Oh FFS .... do you REALLY believe that ???? .... How the hell do you know what he meant to do or meant not to do ???

BTW... for accuracy, he caught Aguero just above the knee....so much for your powers of observation........


I am assuming that you have actually played the game at competitive level,as you are so confident of yourself.FFS
 
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dom said:
Oh FFS .... do you REALLY believe that ????


If you had actually played the game you'd be aware of the difference...FFS
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I believe every word of it. Oh, yes I've played football, however what the fuck that has to do with it I don't know. I'm happy with my opinion that Dann deliberately fouled Aguero, and I'm also happy in my opinion that he didn't aim for Aguero's knee to deliberately make him miss the rest of the game. I'm equally as stunned that some people actually believe that Dann aimed for his knee, but hey, that's what opinions are.
 
malg said:
I believe every word of it. Oh, yes I've played football, however what the fuck that has to do with it I don't know. I'm happy with my opinion that Dann deliberately fouled Aguero, and I'm also happy in my opinion that he didn't aim for Aguero's knee to deliberately make him miss the rest of the game. I'm equally as stunned that some people actually believe that Dann aimed for his knee, but hey, that's what opinions are.
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Agree with that, I had originally said it wasn't a red card offence, but thought I might have missed something with the overall opinion on this thread. Having it watched again a few more times, I think a yellow was the right call. It was a cynical clumsy challenge but it isn't as if he's gone in with studs, it looks like he tried to 'hook' him down, rather than deliberately hurt him. Unfortunately for us he's caught Sergio in a place that has caused him to be injured. Basically I think a straight red would've been harsh.
 
malg said:
Part of the game.
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malg said:
I believe every word of it. Oh, yes I've played football, however what the fuck that has to do with it I don't know. I'm happy with my opinion that Dann deliberately fouled Aguero, and I'm also happy in my opinion that he didn't aim for Aguero's knee to deliberately make him miss the rest of the game. I'm equally as stunned that some people actually believe that Dann aimed for his knee, but hey, that's what opinions are.
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That response does make more sense than your original comment....
 
What annoys me is in a lot of games our players get kicked to fuck and no one gets booked,then the first time one of ours kicks someone out comes the card. Kudos to Ya Ya he let the fuckers know we were there although another ref might have given a red. Dan is just a ****,he could have tugged Kun but no he just plain kicked him without a care in the world and it ended up right on his knee. I hope we let that fucker know all about it when he comes to our place!
 
Just saw the Sergio/ Damn. I thought it was a straight red in real time. But on review, I think it's borderline. It looks like a player intent on tripping Aguero, tvut caught him on the knee.

Professional foul, clearly a yellow, which resulted in a Dangerous play, possibly a red.

Like the commentator said, he'd have had no complaints if it were red. But I see how a ref could have concluded it was a yellow.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Bollocks. That was years ago, in the days of McNab and Sourness. There is too much at stake now and it was credit to us that we did not take the De jong approach (as much as I liked De Jong, but even that was before we could beat any side with football ability given the chance to do it) If we took that approach yesterday and went to 10 men we would not have won that match
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Yep. But at a certain point you have to trade points to protect your key players. I am tired of seeing Silva, Aguero, and Nasri targeted. No doubt Sterling and KDB will be getting plenty of kicks too. Losing a game with 10 men in the long run is better than having your players sidelined for months.

For those saying Pardew didn't send them out there to kick the shit out of our attackers...I don't have words.
 
paulchapo said:
What annoys me is in a lot of games our players get kicked to fuck and no one gets booked,then the first time one of ours kicks someone out comes the card. Kudos to Ya Ya he let the fuckers know we were there although another ref might have given a red. Dan is just a ****,he could have tugged Kun but no he just plain kicked him without a care in the world and it ended up right on his knee. I hope we let that fucker know all about it when he comes to our place!
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This happens time and time again, certain players commit multiple fouls against us then usually Vinny commits one near the half way line and the yellow card can't come out quick enough
It'll make a change if tonight we keep 11 players on the field
 
Bluekiwi said:
Should have gone to Specsavers - I do, and the replay I've watched clearly shows Danns boot making contact with Kun
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I agree that he deliberately fouled him, I'm just not convinced he had the intention of nobbling Aguero. At the start of that replay it looks like he's going to kick right through him, but he then pulls his foot out. It's just Aguero's bad luck with fucking injuries in that Dann caught him where he did.

Hopefully it won't cost us tonight.
 
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