Players who might improve us

Problem is Mings type signings will probably be 60-70m these days. Villa spent a lot on him and they'll want to more than double their money on him. I think we may be better off searching abroad or looking at Garcia and THB.
 
hcblue95 said:
Problem is Mings type signings will probably be 60-70m these days. Villa spent a lot on him and they'll want to more than double their money on him. I think we may be better off searching abroad or looking at Garcia and THB.
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Didn`t villa pay £20 million for him so yes double your money summer offer as a replacement for Ottamendi, and Villa could go down? he is also taller than Garcia and THB faster left footed and more experienced, in Europe there is probably only Ferro from Benfica and since we are probably taking the other CB in January that is not likely to happen, Mings biggest problem is his injury record which is why leaving him till the summer makes sense
 
Thomas Hearns said:
Mings is nowhere near good enough for a top class team. His height would be useful but we can't buy defenders just because they're tall and had a half decent game against League 1 level opponents
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Mings has played well all season and every game he has played against us, if we sign him he would be Laporte`s back up and unlikely to play, which top class player is going to sign for us with Laporte blocking his way? Mings is bigger ,faster, younger and a far far better footballer than Ottamendi he is also English and on less than half the wage.
If we sign a top quality CB in January to push or replace Stones then Mings in the summer is a great buy
 
Sir Joe Aguero said:
Not seen beyond the standard Youtube comps but Denis Zakaria looks class.
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It was a good move for him going to Borussia good game time and decent opposition on the plus side he is big and fast powerful as well, but he has not picked it all up yet, first touch is better but still rough and awareness is not quite there, he is still young though and i would take him before the Arsenal player just not at that £ 50 million price tag
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Mings has played well all season and every game he has played against us, if we sign him he would be Laporte`s back up and unlikely to play, which top class player is going to sign for us with Laporte blocking his way? Mings is bigger ,faster, younger and a far far better footballer than Ottamendi he is also English and on less than half the wage.
If we sign a top quality CB in January to push or replace Stones then Mings in the summer is a great buy
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Haven’t seen a lot of him tbh, only thing that stood out for me is seeing him done like a kipper by a very average palace striker to concede a late winner. Wasn’t aware he’d ever played against us but if he has he didn’t stand out. He’s bigger than Nico but he’s not half the player. He’s average on the ball, not particularly fast, doesn’t turn well and doesn’t read the game as well. Were you baying for him to replace Nico before he had a bad dip in form and the press had a wankfest over how well Mings played against a dreadful Bulgaria.
 
Thomas Hearns said:
Haven’t seen a lot of him tbh, only thing that stood out for me is seeing him done like a kipper by a very average palace striker to concede a late winner. Wasn’t aware he’d ever played against us but if he has he didn’t stand out. He’s bigger than Nico but he’s not half the player. He’s average on the ball, not particularly fast, doesn’t turn well and doesn’t read the game as well. Were you baying for him to replace Nico before he had a bad dip in form and the press had a wankfest over how well Mings played against a dreadful Bulgaria.
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I have watched Mings since his Ipswich days so you can stuff your Bulgarian wankfest, he is fast and used to play LWB as he has a good touch, he does not panic when he has the ball unlike Ottamendi, and he reads the game just fine since he does not stand out for you i would find it hard to understand how you could form that opinion? but lets face it Ottamendi is utter garbage now and was last season
 
salfordbluetrue said:
I have watched Mings since his Ipswich days so you can stuff your Bulgarian wankfest, he is fast and used to play LWB as he has a good touch, he does not panic when he has the ball unlike Ottamendi, and he reads the game just fine since he does not stand out for you i would find it hard to understand how you could form that opinion? but lets face it Ottamendi is utter garbage now and was last season
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Nico’s had a bad few games no denying that and maybe he’s not gonna get back to what he was but if you think he was utter garbage last season when he played roughly half the games in the best season ever then you’re just a knee jerk reaction merchant who’s letting a few bad games cloud your judgement. Nico doesn’t panic at all, if he did he wouldn’t have been picked by pep so many times last season and been a stalwart playing virtually every game in our centurions season.
Mings is the latest flavour of the month defender and won’t ever play in a title winning team unlike double title winning hero Nico and in spite of his current poor form you really should afford him a bit more respect given what he’s achieved for us
 
Thomas Hearns said:
Nico’s had a bad few games no denying that and maybe he’s not gonna get back to what he was but if you think he was utter garbage last season when he played roughly half the games in the best season ever then you’re just a knee jerk reaction merchant who’s letting a few bad games cloud your judgement. Nico doesn’t panic at all, if he did he wouldn’t have been picked by pep so many times last season and been a stalwart playing virtually every game in our centurions season.
Mings is the latest flavour of the month defender and won’t ever play in a title winning team unlike double title winning hero Nico and in spite of his current poor form you really should afford him a bit more respect given what he’s achieved for us
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Ottamendi has my respect but if you have not understood his failing that is your problem , he never was a footballing CB and was fantastic in the air considering his height, but his game was about pace and power and that has gone, as for your foretelling of Mings`s future i will take that with a pinch of salt, Mings biggest problem is his injury record otherwise he would already be at a top club
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Ottamendi has my respect but if you have not understood his failing that is your problem , he never was a footballing CB and was fantastic in the air considering his height, but his game was about pace and power and that has gone, as for your foretelling of Mings`s future i will take that with a pinch of salt, Mings biggest problem is his injury record otherwise he would already be at a top club
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Kompany, despite his midfield origins was never a footballing centre half either but Pep improved them both in that regard. Nico was never a speed merchant but read the game beautifully, timed his tackles well and was fierce in the challenge. I’m talking about him in the past tense but I think he still has something to offer this season if he can get his confidence back and crucially get Laporte or stones back alongside him to compensate for his lack of pace.
 
Thomas Hearns said:
Kompany, despite his midfield origins was never a footballing centre half either but Pep improved them both in that regard. Nico was never a speed merchant but read the game beautifully, timed his tackles well and was fierce in the challenge. I’m talking about him in the past tense but I think he still has something to offer this season if he can get his confidence back and crucially get Laporte or stones back alongside him to compensate for his lack of pace.
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Okay getting back to the start, in January we will go in for a replacement for Kompany, the criteria is he must be good enough to challenge Stones he must also be able to play LCB and RCB, Maguire was that man, finding another Englisn player to do that may be impossible so that place may well go to a foreign spot, causing it`s own problems, in the summer Ottamendi will almost certainly leave finding a top quality player that will stand in Laporte`s shadow may well also be impossible, and Mings might actually be the best we can get so he is a good shout
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Okay getting back to the start, in January we will go in for a replacement for Kompany, the criteria is he must be good enough to challenge Stones he must also be able to play LCB and RCB, Maguire was that man, finding another Englisn player to do that may be impossible so that place may well go to a foreign spot, causing it`s own problems, in the summer Ottamendi will almost certainly leave finding a top quality player that will stand in Laporte`s shadow may well also be impossible, and Mings might actually be the best we can get so he is a good shout
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Why English ? Ake better than Mings. Plays fullback too. Faster, better on ball than Mings. Not as good in air prob. No English premium on fee.
 
Thomas Hearns said:
Why English ? Ake better than Mings. Plays fullback too. Faster, better on ball than Mings. Not as good in air prob. No English premium on fee.
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Ake was offered the LB role at Chelsea albeit a back up and refused Chelsea let him go as they believed he would never be big enough to command a CB role, he left and joined a team that needed quality more than height, we need height as we are the smallest team in the league, Ake reads the game superbly and is a good footballer but not fast, i also doubt he would give up his first team place unless relegated
 
Plays in a one-team league but I've been impressed with Kristoffer Ajer, CB from Celtic. 6'6, composed, decent pass and just 21. He's done really well there, I think. Believe he's played some DB and RB too but there's no way he'll play there going forward.
 
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