Police fail to hack paedos computer

the--dud said:
This story doesn't make sense. Say the guy had a "50 character password" but this must be some simplification or mistake from the news agencies.
My guess is he had a 56bit DSA (or similar) encryption key, which if is - it's shocking that the police don't have the resources to brute force that!
He could have had a 512bit RSA encryption key but even that should be fairly quick to brute force as asymmetric encryption like RSA is a bit easier to crack.

The reason I think something like RSA or DSA encryption was used it because you have to assume it was his actual harddrive that was encrypted - which uses these systems.


Yep, just what I was thinking, the source code encryption algorithm needs to be twisted through a flux capacitor to reveal the geometrical primitives, longitude and latitude predicates, the hull construction and triangulation method should then be exposed. No problem!
 
Why should he give the cops his password ?

He's not asked them to inspect his computer , has he?
 
The Frontzeck said:
the--dud said:
This story doesn't make sense. Say the guy had a "50 character password" but this must be some simplification or mistake from the news agencies.
My guess is he had a 56bit DSA (or similar) encryption key, which if is - it's shocking that the police don't have the resources to brute force that!
He could have had a 512bit RSA encryption key but even that should be fairly quick to brute force as asymmetric encryption like RSA is a bit easier to crack.

The reason I think something like RSA or DSA encryption was used it because you have to assume it was his actual harddrive that was encrypted - which uses these systems.


Yep, just what I was thinking, the source code encryption algorithm needs to be twisted through a flux capacitor to reveal the geometrical primitives, longitude and latitude predicates, the hull construction and triangulation method should then be exposed. No problem!


PMSL.
 
stonerblue said:
i find it staggering that it's a criminal offence to not disclose a password.

Course it is, lets turn it the other way, if a terror suspect refused to give his password out upon arrest for suspicion and then inside that computer were the details of a planned bomb in Manchester city centre or the trafford centre with the loacation and time of detonation etc... and the police just said if you wont give us your password youre free to leave and then the trafford centre blows up killing thousands where would the blame lie, im pretty sure people would be up in arms with the police for not making the guy give his password.

If theres nothing to hide, hand it over it clears you. simple as
 
adamgregory said:
stonerblue said:
i find it staggering that it's a criminal offence to not disclose a password.

Course it is, lets turn it the other way, if a terror suspect refused to give his password out upon arrest for suspicion and then inside that computer were the details of a planned bomb in Manchester city centre or the trafford centre with the loacation and time of detonation etc... and the police just said if you wont give us your password youre free to leave and then the trafford centre blows up killing thousands where would the blame lie, im pretty sure people would be up in arms with the police for not making the guy give his password.

If theres nothing to hide, hand it over it clears you. simple as

Just like if your car gets photographed speeding by a GATSO, you have to disclose who was driving.
 
adamgregory said:
stonerblue said:
i find it staggering that it's a criminal offence to not disclose a password.

Course it is, lets turn it the other way, if a terror suspect refused to give his password out upon arrest for suspicion and then inside that computer were the details of a planned bomb in Manchester city centre or the trafford centre with the loacation and time of detonation etc... and the police just said if you wont give us your password youre free to leave and then the trafford centre blows up killing thousands where would the blame lie, im pretty sure people would be up in arms with the police for not making the guy give his password.

If theres nothing to hide, hand it over it clears you. simple as

So we free standing members of the community can all have the password to the PNC , can we?

Or don't the police want the nation to know that at least 1,000 of their number have criminal records ....... criminal records that didn't stop them finding a job by the way , when they stop so many others!
 
stony said:
Damocles said:
Absolutely not.

I also keep encrypted files on my computer for security purposes and there is absolutely no way that I'd give my password out to anyone either.

The law is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Where exactly was that philosophy in the latest arrest?

I hope he sues them and wins big.

I wasn't that interested in the human rights aspect of the case. I was more surprised that they couldn't crack his encryption code.

You also seem to presume he's a paedo without any evidence.
 
black mamba said:
So we free standing members of the community can all have the password to the PNC , can we?

Or don't the police want the nation to know that at least 1,000 of their number have criminal records ....... criminal records that didn't stop them finding a job by the way , when they stop so many others!

Go on pal you rise against society you rebel :-)

This thread is about a bloke possibly suspected of paedophillia not giving his password out, now I'm not being funny thats a very severe crime he should be sayng heres my password theres nothing there, to clear his name. However he isnt doing that therefore building suspicion around him. You seem to have turned it into a debate about police officers criminal records, you say at least a thousand, do you have any idea how many officers there are in the UK?

And just to set the record straight there was a law passed that basically entitles reformed offenders to apply for any jobs. It comes under anti-descriminatory practice. How can you hold a D&D from when somebody was 17 against them for the rest of their life? Prolific offenders are the ones that are prevented from getting jobs.
 

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