Political relations between UK-EU

meltonblue said:
Ah, so in that case, no, we’re not far off at all. On your point c, I agree. Ultimately, that not being there was the main reason I decided to vote the way I did as I had no evidence, and therefore no confidence, of what would be delivered or even how it would.

I get for some (well, a lot) of people that was a risk they were willing to take in the hope that the end result might align with their personal view of what they wanted. It wasn’t for me though, particularly knowing the party most likely to deliver it, if not the individuals.
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Just as an 'aside'

None of my comments in this exchange with you are particularly related to my stance as a staunch supporter of Leaving the EU.

In my role I have to be 'agnostic' - I would be making the same comments and holding Cameron, May, Hammond and Robbins accountable if I was a staunch Remain supporter.

That is because it was those individuals that were holding the levers of power at the time the correct decisions were needed - and they were incompetent.

I think that Johnson is a 'natural incompetent'.

The only credit I give him is for letting more able people direct matters - but it was damage limitation from Autumn 2019 onwards.

I am just amazed and glad with what resulted from that point.

I have a strong personal view as to why the EU ended up committing to the agreement they did.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Just as an 'aside'

None of my comments in this exchange with you are particularly related to my stance as a staunch supporter of Leaving the EU.

In my role I have to be 'agnostic' - I would be making the same comments and holding Cameron, May, Hammond and Robbins accountable if I was a staunch Remain supporter.

That is because it was those individuals that were holding the levers of power at the time the correct decisions were needed - and they were incompetent.

I think that Johnson is a 'natural incompetent'.

The only credit I give him is for letting more able people direct matters - but it was damage limitation from Autumn 2019 onwards.

I am just amazed and glad with what resulted from that point.

I have a strong personal view as to why the EU ended up committing to the agreement they did.
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Yes, we’re definitely aligned on most of that, just not the end consequences.
 
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penguins4kompany said:
Look youre obviously a bunch of fascists here, 2016 is irrelevant, you're making arguments for your own case. I don't care I had a salient point to make re trump but was denied by a ' fascist' moderator. I will admit I went ott with the Pelosi lynch inference which is what I presume got me barred, but youre just falling in line if you can warrant calls for trump to be struck down on similar levels on a daily basis. Double standards.
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Sadly, this is far from being the most unintelligible contribution to this thread, nor even the most irrelevant.
 
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It’s been a long couple of weeks and I just wish we could rejoin the EU
I mean since we left we have gone into lockdown, Can’t go to pub, kids are off school, it’s been really cold and now it’s raining as well
Boris never told me this on the side of his bus
I miss the good old days!
 
at some stage people will have to acknowledge how wrong they were - not the ultra's of course - as was said from the outset when it goes to shit, costs jobs, destroys industry then it will be the manner of implementation that is blamed not the fact that Brexit was always an unachievable rwnj wet dream in a modern integrated world

 
un-be-fucking-lieveable - these two faced snakes were holding up fishing as their totem when really not giving a tinkers cuss - I do hope people in the fishing industry, the fish processing industry, hauliers, people who work in boatyards and their kids who see their parents lives fucked over by this lot have very long memories



 
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