Pollution in our rivers.

Saddleworth2

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Every one of us is paying our water companies to pollute our rivers and lakes whilst paying their CEO’s millions in salary and bonus and shareholders £billions in dividends.

watch a two part documentary by Paul Whitehouse on BBC2 tonight. Manchester rivers have the greatest pollution of micro plastics IN THE WORLD.

it’s nothing short of a fucking disgrace.
 
The river Tame in particular. As well as micro plastics the river is constantly subject to releases of untreated sewage. Some poor buggers actually try and keep it viable as a free fishery.
 
And will remain so as long as the fines for polluting are less than the costs of sorting it out to the companies.
That's about the size of it. Cheaper to use the rivers as a toilet and take the fine than invest in infrastructure. As with all our privatised industries the terms are loaded very much in favour of corporate business.
 
Every one of us is paying our water companies to pollute our rivers and lakes whilst paying their CEO’s millions in salary and bonus and shareholders £billions in dividends.

watch a two part documentary by Paul Whitehouse on BBC2 tonight. Manchester rivers have the greatest pollution of micro plastics IN THE WORLD.

it’s nothing short of a fucking disgrace.
Sadly most people don't care. They keep buying things in plastic, like water ffs.
Most humans are more interested in Strictly Dancing or Coronation St than how polluted the rivers are. The big corporates know that.
It's extremely sad how uninterested in the fact that the planet is being slowly destroyed by greed most people are.
 
Sadly most people don't care. They keep buying things in plastic, like water ffs.
Most humans are more interested in Strictly Dancing or Coronation St than how polluted the rivers are. The big corporates know that.
It's extremely sad how uninterested in the fact that the planet is being slowly destroyed by greed most people are.
We could stop it tomorrow if everyone refused to pay water bills until addressed. Shit is literally being released into popular swimming spots. Water companies are legally allowed to release effluent into rivers if it rains. But no one monitors that so they release anytime they like. Even when river levels are low. Foreign investment pumped into the water companies because of the profit potential coupled with weak environmental controls. It is enough to make you weep.
 
We could stop it tomorrow if everyone refused to pay water bills until addressed. Shit is literally being released into popular swimming spots. Water companies are legally allowed to release effluent into rivers if it rains. But no one monitors that so they release anytime they like. Even when river levels are low. Foreign investment pumped into the water companies because of the profit potential coupled with weak environmental controls. It is enough to make you weep.
Christ, do people actually swim in rivers ?
 
We could stop it tomorrow if everyone refused to pay water bills until addressed. Shit is literally being released into popular swimming spots. Water companies are legally allowed to release effluent into rivers if it rains. But no one monitors that so they release anytime they like. Even when river levels are low. Foreign investment pumped into the water companies because of the profit potential coupled with weak environmental controls. It is enough to make you weep.
Are you using the term "investment" in the loosest possible way?
 
It's bloody annoying. We are paying for our sewage to be treated, not pumped raw into our rivers.

Back in the 80's and 90's, and possibly before then, companies were forced by the Environment Agency to clean up their discharges into rivers. After years of pollutants entering and killing the eco-systems that rendered most rivers dead, they had to clean up their acts, at whatever cost it took, so the rivers could return to their natural state and be appreciated and enjoyed by the public.

It was seen as selfish a company could ruin a river so they could save a few bob without any regard to the impact it would have on the wildlife downstream, and while the companies huffed and puffed and complained about the cost, they did what they were told, and the quality of our rivers and beaches improved.

I'm at a loss to understand what's going on now. After decades of reading those glossy pamphlets from United Utilities when the bill arrives in the post, stating how wonderful they have been in cleaning everything up, spending millions on this and that, it's been nothing but a whitewash and utter rubbish.

Everything in the UK is going backwards at the moment, and the fact our rivers are returning to the same levels of pollution last seen in the 50's and 60's is completely at odds with everything they have been telling us.

It would be interesting to see how much has been paid out in director salaries and shareholder bonuses since the water companies were privatised. I'm guessing it's probably in the billions. Whatever the figure is, it's probaly a lot more than the investment in treatment facilities required to keep our rivers clean.

30 years or so ago, companies were forced to clean up their acts, and I have difficulty comprehending it's now water companies buggering up our eco-systems for the sake of profit when they have been telling us for years how wonderful they have been.

What are we paying our sewerage charges for? Well, nothing it would seem, other than it being trousered by some corpulant twat and their friends.
 
Has anyone blamed Thatcher/Brexit/Trump yet?
 
It's bloody annoying. We are paying for our sewage to be treated, not pumped raw into our rivers.

Back in the 80's and 90's, and possibly before then, companies were forced by the Environment Agency to clean up their discharges into rivers. After years of pollutants entering and killing the eco-systems that rendered most rivers dead, they had to clean up their acts, at whatever cost it took, so the rivers could return to their natural state and be appreciated and enjoyed by the public.

It was seen as selfish a company could ruin a river so they could save a few bob without any regard to the impact it would have on the wildlife downstream, and while the companies huffed and puffed and complained about the cost, they did what they were told, and the quality of our rivers and beaches improved.

I'm at a loss to understand what's going on now. After decades of reading those glossy pamphlets from United Utilities when the bill arrives in the post, stating how wonderful they have been in cleaning everything up, spending millions on this and that, it's been nothing but a whitewash and utter rubbish.

Everything in the UK is going backwards at the moment, and the fact our rivers are returning to the same levels of pollution last seen in the 50's and 60's is completely at odds with everything they have been telling us.

It would be interesting to see how much has been paid out in director salaries and shareholder bonuses since the water companies were privatised. I'm guessing it's probably in the billions. Whatever the figure is, it's probaly a lot more than the investment in treatment facilities required to keep our rivers clean.

30 years or so ago, companies were forced to clean up their acts, and I have difficulty comprehending it's now water companies buggering up our eco-systems for the sake of profit when they have been telling us for years how wonderful they have been.

What are we paying our sewerage charges for? Well, nothing it would seem, other than it being trousered by some corpulant twat and their friends.
The programme last night identified Yorkshire Water and United Utilities as amongst the worst polluters. They did articles on the River Wharfe, Tame and Windermere. All heavily illegally polluted by untreated sewage.
There are lots of things to get angry about these days but this has to be near the top for ripping us off financially whilst literally poisoning us and destroying our rivers. 100% of rivers in England and Wales are polluted.
 
Has anyone blamed Thatcher/Brexit/Trump yet?
Brexit?

The supply chain crisis – exacerbated by Britain’s exit from the EU – has also played a role. The chemicals used to treat sewage are in short supply. As a result, the Government issued guidance to water and sewage companies essentially allowing them to break existing regulations in terms of the necessary wastewater treatment prior to discharge. This means that partially treated sewage is now given the go-ahead to be dumped into English rivers.

The Environment Agency acknowledged Brexit as a factorand stipulated the emergency sewage dumping will continue until the end of the year, with an extension possible. The notice was specifically addressed to sewage companies that could not get chemicals due to “the UK’s new relationship with the EU” or Covid. Firms were also told that the Environment Agency would desist from taking enforcement action in certain cases. However, given the already routine use of ‘emergency’ overspill rules, it is not clear how big a factor this is in the English crisis.

So, the case of England’s appalling river pollution is another reminder of the toxic combination of privatisation and deregulation with Brexit economic nationalism.
 

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