Post Match Thread: Election 2017

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i think we have ended up in the worst situation. no one really won. labour who did well, got no where near winning. all the smaller parties did crap pretty much. and the conservatives have done awful and have potentially put brexit at risk.

i can already see remainers jumping on the bandwagon, saying we cant leave the single market now. as someone who voted for brexit and wants to fully leave it, if we dont its making me question whether i will vote again tbh.
 
Really? I quoted it for you.

Chippy:
"I've heard this morning even Labour MP's saying the Tories as the largest party are entitled to first dibs."

"Labour MPs know the rules" is less slanted, but the whole part up to and including 'saying' is irrelevant, as there are rules.

The 'even' is something I'd expect from the Mail.

You've completely misinterpreted what I said and meant. I was not aware (and am still not) about such rules. I believed that there was some precedent for the largest party to have first dibs, but I was unaware it is a hard and fast rule.

And I have heard some Labour people this very morning saying they think Corbyn should be allowed to form a minority government. Indeed did not Gordon Brown for a short time seek to do so, when he lost in 2010? I think he did.

My comment you quoted simply meant that even people who you might expect to take this stance, are saying no, it's the Tories who should be given the first go.

I am sorry if I gave you any other impression. I was not seeking to spin anything.
 
i think we have ended up in the worst situation. no one really won. labour who did well, got no where near winning. all the smaller parties did crap pretty much. and the conservatives have down awful and have potentially put brexit at risk.

i can already see remainers jumping on the bandwagon, saying we cant leave the single market now. as someone who voted for brexit and wants to fully leave it, if we dont its making me question whether i will vote again tbh.

I'm quite happy. Corbyn isn't going to be PM (at least not this time). We're not going to have a hard brexit.
 
Even if she does get the DUP to get her over the line she is weakened by this and Corbyn has emerged as a proper opposition leader.

Describing Cornyn as a proper opposition leader and this being a good result for Labour is stretching credibility. All Cornyn has done is turn a disastrous election in 2015 into a defeat in 2017. If a defeat on this scale is the best he can do after offering large voting groups sweeteners he is never going to win an election.
The only person this result was brilliant for is Andy Burnham. An election in 2023 will be perfect timing for him after his tenure as mayor.
 
I'm quite happy. Corbyn isn't going to be PM (at least not this time). We're not going to have a hard brexit.

so you can guarantee we arent going to leave the single market ? i hate the term hard brexit as well. one of the main reasons people voted for brexit was immigration and controlling laws. the only way we can do that is leave the single market. there will be a lot of pissed of voters if we dont. the tories still won a majority. so i still think we will in the end.
 
Farage: "I may have to return to politics but i'm not sure how i'll be able to do that"

2 hours later

Nuttall: "I resign as UKIP leader"

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Even if she does get the DUP to get her over the line she is weakened by this and Corbyn has emerged as a proper opposition leader.

Describing Corbyn as a proper opposition leader and this being a good result for Labour is stretching credibility. All Cornyn has done is turn a disastrous election in 2015 into a defeat in 2017. If a defeat on this scale is the best he can do after offering large voting groups sweeteners he is never going to win an election.
The only person this result was brilliant for is Andy Burnham. An election in 2023 will be perfect timing for him after his tenure as mayor.
 
Describing Cornyn as a proper opposition leader and this being a good result for Labour is stretching credibility. All Cornyn has done is turn a disastrous election in 2015 into a defeat in 2017. If a defeat on this scale is the best he can do after offering large voting groups sweeteners he is never going to win an election.
The only person this result was brilliant for is Andy Burnham. An election in 2023 will be perfect timing for him after his tenure as mayor.

thats what i think tbh. labour despite getting all young vote and a bigger percentage share of the vote then last election have got no where near winning. they arent going to win an election any time soon imo.
 
I'm quite happy. Corbyn isn't going to be PM (at least not this time). We're not going to have a hard brexit.
I don't think Corbyn will ever be PM regardless of whether there is another election in a few months time. Best thing labour could do if there is a hung parliament would be to get a leader now that people can get behind and believe in and policies they could actually deliver. Maybe then they would have a chance at serious gains on the conservatives. As it is we are in total limbo.
 
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