Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[aguero93:20]

I think if someone stands up and tells the public they are going to deliver a whole load of things that cannot be delivered, it is the duty of the press to expose it as they see fit. They didn't seek to crucify him because they don't like his beard; it's because they think his policies are barmy. Should they say nothing in those circumstances? I cannot see a problem with saying it how you see it. And before anyone suggests they are in the Tories' pockets, they supported Blair well enough.

Your last sentence makes no sense TBH, Blair was a Tory with a red tie.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So if Torys do go with a coalition with DUP ... Then that means 5 more years ?

who decides when to call another election ?

 

[urban genie]

The DUP have previously had memebers linked to combat 18 though the UVF.

Combat fucking 18
sorry but these lot cannot be allowed to have a sway oven the uk government more than occasionally voting with them.

 

[Damocles]

Your last sentence makes no sense TBH, Blair was a Tory with a red tie.

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Your last sentence makes no sense TBH, Blair was a Tory with a red tie.

A myth much perpetuated by the left, who actually mean "Blair was not as left as we would have liked". He most certainly was not a Tory. He may have been more moderate and less offensive to Tory values, but he still presided over an enormous increase in the size of the public sector, splurged cash on pretty much everything, raised taxes all over the place and ran the country into deficit at the same time. These are not Tory values.

 

[CitizenTID]

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

Definitely a cnut though

 

[blueparrot]

So if Torys do go with a coalition with DUP ... Then that means 5 more years ?

who decides when to call another election ?

Won't last 5 years whatever happens, could easily be a vote of no confidence at anytime if DUP turn or even a few tories turn on themselves. There won't be a formal coalition anyway.

 

[Blue Llama]

So if Torys do go with a coalition with DUP ... Then that means 5 more years ?

who decides when to call another election ?

Unless an agreement is reached in parliament its a fixed term, so 5 years to the nearest Thursday.

 

[aguero93:20]

as a side to the tory/labour discussion I find whats happened in norn iron astonishing. Theyve basically wiped the actual political parties on the centre left and centre right off the map and stuck all their eggs in the respective political arm of the old paramilitary groups basket

They've always done that in their local elections, tbf I don't think they feel represented by the Westminster parties, SF and the DUP are more of a presence, especially in Belfast and Derry.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

I prefer your more positive appraisal, but we are agreed.

 

[geoff clipp]

What a bunch of shady fuckers
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/w...e-dup-dark-money-and-a-saudi-prince-1.3083586

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Your last sentence makes no sense TBH, Blair was a Tory with a red tie.

Cos the Tories were chomping at the bit to introduce greater Maternity/Paternity and adoption leave & pay, they craved introducing legislation legitamising LGBT relationships and were desperate to introduce a national minimum wage all while protecting the NHS and building dozens and dozens of new, fit for purpose schools.

 

[blueparrot]

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

Child and family tax credits, free nursery places, and a windfall tax on utilities, a few more off the top of my head . More Labour than a lot of Labour supporters will admit to themselves.

 

[aguero93:20]

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

Gave the banks free reign, saw quantitive easing hit never seen before heights, oversaw a huge property bubble and let regulation go to shit.

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Blair introduced a national minimum wage, enshrined LGBT rights, heavily funded the NHS including setting up Sure Start centres and constantly extolled the virtues of immigration and Europe.

He was absolutely NOT a Tory in a red tie.

will you fuck off beating me to it ;)

 

[denislawsbackheel]

one on radio last night saying any brexit deal should have a hard border, dangerous lot to have to rely on

Quite the opposite
They insist in borders as they are now.

 

[CitizenTID]

Jonathan Powell former chief of Staff to Tony Blair who worked on peace negotiations appealing to Tories not to go into an alliance with DUP as UK Govt is meant to avoid taking a side in NI

 

[cibaman]

So what happens next.
My guess would be queens speech gets passed. Brexit negotiations start and then when everything is underway May steps down and a new Tory leader is elected. One of: David Davis, Bojo or a.n.other. It will be managed as an accession all agreed internally before it happens.

Apparently Davis is now under a cloud. The early election was mainly his idea and he was a prominent member of May's inner circle during the campaign.

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Gave the banks free reign, saw quantitive easing hit never seen before heights, oversaw a huge property bubble and let regulation go to shit.

Havnt you forgotton something, Iraq

 

[aguero93:20]

Havnt you forgotton something Iraq

Ah yeah, lying murdering **** as well, although tbf that's nothing to do with whether he's right or left.