Post Match Thread: Election 2017

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Bigga said:
You're non too sharp, yourself!

You should know how shit a manifesto is, if you let your party members know about it, in the first place!!

Knowing your manifesto is shit, after the fact, kind of leaves you in a 'dead duck' situation...

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Changing a manifesto is the best thing a party can do when they realise it's shite.

The fact you don't get that doesn't surprise me. You are what you are.
 
Bigga said:
You're non too sharp, yourself!

You should know how shit a manifesto is, if you let your party members know about it, in the first place!!

Knowing your manifesto is shit, after the fact, kind of leaves you in a 'dead duck' situation...

Oh look...
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I think the Tories were attempting to use their huge poll lead (and predicted large majority) to push through a fair few ideologically driven, shite policies.

This pissed off enough people for them to fail to win a majority at all, let alone a large one.

Changing the manifesto to remove the ideological crap is both good for the electorate (as they get a more centrist option) and the party (as they stand a good chance of a majority) as SWP said.

I mean fox hunting FFS.
 
CityStu said:
I think the Tories were attempting to use their huge poll lead (and predicted large majority) to push through a fair few ideologically driven, shite policies.

This pissed off enough people for them to fail to win a majority at all, let alone a large one.

Changing the manifesto to remove the ideological crap is both good for the electorate (as they get a more centrist option) and the party (as they stand a good chance of a majority) as SWP said.

I mean fox hunting FFS.
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Well explained, cheers.

There weren't too many centrists thrilled with the manifesto.
 
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day

Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime

Promise him someone else's fish and he votes Labour
 
The perfect fumble said:
In a socialist nirvana we'd all be millionaires.
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SWP's back said:
Well explained, cheers.

There weren't too many centrists thrilled with the manifesto.
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Definitely. Plenty of reluctant Tory voters and people who abstained that probably expected to vote Tory when the election was called, before the manifesto was announced.
 
CityStu said:
I think the Tories were attempting to use their huge poll lead (and predicted large majority) to push through a fair few ideologically driven, shite policies.

This pissed off enough people for them to fail to win a majority at all, let alone a large one.

Changing the manifesto to remove the ideological crap is both good for the electorate (as they get a more centrist option) and the party (as they stand a good chance of a majority) as SWP said.

I mean fox hunting FFS.
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Exactly what happened, but I fail to see how they come out of that looking "good".

Is this what good leadership and government looks like?

Isn't this the type of thing that is pissing "the people" off about "The Establishment"?

Roll on the next election...
 
1.618034 said:
Exactly what happened, but I fail to see how they come out of that looking "good".

Is this what good leadership and government looks like?

Isn't this the type of thing that is pissing "the people" off about "The Establishment"?

Roll on the next election...
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They don't. They took the electorate for granted and got stung.

Changing the manifesto to give the electorate what the majority actually want would be an improvement.
 
1.618034 said:
Exactly what happened, but I fail to see how they come out of that looking "good".

Is this what good leadership and government looks like?

Isn't this the type of thing that is pissing "the people" off about "The Establishment"?

Roll on the next election...
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No, it doesn't look good. They need to take a long, hard look at what lessons can be learned. One of them, IMO, is that extra funding is undoubtedly needed for NHS and social care, and that it will have to come out of taxation of those (individuals and companies) with deep pockets. It can't be wrung out of cutbacks year after year after year.

And I speak as a natural Tory voter, albeit one who abstained on this occasion.
 
SWP's back said:
No one has suggested they had.

Apart from you by insinuation above.
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It was an implication from "as they stand a good chance of a majority"

If this is the case, they must look good to the majority of voters. No?

If you're telling me that the majority want this kind of leadership then fair enough. I just disagree.
 
1.618034 said:
It was an implication from "as they stand a good chance of a majority"

If this is the case, they must look good to the majority of voters. No?

If you're telling me that the majority want this kind of leadership then fair enough. I just disagree.
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No, the manifesto would look good to the majority of voters if it didn't want to kill cute animals and tax those with dementia.

People can overlook individuals because both parties' front benches are full of knobs.
 
sir baconface said:
I'm not paying a penny over £300k for my bacon barm. I hope you left wing fcukers understand this.
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The barm factory no 37 might be able to do that, but no butter, the butter ration is allocated only in months with an X in them and only in a leap year.

PS: The British Ambassador to Cuba once told a story of meeting Fidel Castro at a reception in Havana. Castro told him that when there was worldwide revolution they'd keep one country capitalist, when asked why Castro replied...

"So we know what the price is"
 
Have they dropped the plans to scrap the appeals process for disabled people who have been told they are fit to work ? they should drop that before they have more people dropping dead after being declared fit
 
1.618034 said:
It was an implication from "as they stand a good chance of a majority"

If this is the case, they must look good to the majority of voters. No?

If you're telling me that the majority want this kind of leadership then fair enough. I just disagree.
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When you make is mistake, is it better to plough on or change that mistake?

If you change that mistake then you surely put yourself in a better position than ploughing on.
 
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