Post Match Thread - United (h)

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Anyone seen Carragher comments about the rags win. Best 30 minutes of football he has seen, and even at full strength we would have struggled to cope. YCNMIU.

To be fair they were excellent first 30 mins. I can’t work out if that was down to their quality or us being completely shit. Not many sides create 5/6 clear chances against us in three games let alone 30 mins.

 

[Damanino]

No idea how we let Martial to make a shot without even closing him down properly to block his shot when here is just getting a pass from James.

4 vs 2 fucking hell.

The fact we fail in a 4 vs 2 is rubbish. Next moment is that he shooting and its 2-0. We make it easy for them, why? Nobody is making easy for us, well Burnley did as they were fucking awful but even Spurs ripped them apart same way 3 days later.

If you make it easy for opponent you will get punished.

 

[kdbrise]

Hi guys, this is my first post in this forum.
Kind of disappointed that we lost to that lot, it was their cup final.
As I read through the comments, I just feel Rodri gets a free pass from our fans compared to Gundo/Stones etc.
I fear he is still not up to the pace of the league, in LaLiga you get time , this league is unforgiving.
He needs time to adapt, hope he is better next season.

 

[asahartford1]

Hi guys, this is my first post in this forum.
Kind of disappointed that we lost to that lot, it was their cup final.
As I read through the comments, I just feel Rodri gets a free pass from our fans compared to Gundo/Stones etc.
I fear he is still not up to the pace of the league, in LaLiga you get time , this league is unforgiving.
He needs time to adapt, hope he is better next season.

You just don't know how it works. The players &have to take turns to be slated, Zinchenko, Delph last season, a space was created and gundogan took over , now a few injuries and it is Stones, Rodri will get his turn.

 

[asahartford1]

I would imagine he knows.

If you are watching the Liverpool match, you will see three forwards playing closely together, and others providing the width, if you cannot see the difference, cannot help really. We play with an isolated centre forward which is fine if you provide the support, at present we find it difficult to do that.

 

[domalino]

If you are watching the Liverpool match, you will see three forwards playing closely together, and others providing the width, if you cannot see the difference, cannot help really. We play with an isolated centre forward which is fine if you provide the support, at present we find it difficult to do that.

We have never played like that, with both fullbacks providing width, so it's irrelevant to us.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

Watching that 2nd goal for them again and with 2 players goal-side that far away from goal Eddie should not be beaten at his near post with anything less than a thunderbolt - it wasn't. Watching that nestle in the back of the net I suspected it was down to Eddie and now having seen it again im afraid it was and ended up being the killer goal. Although he made a few saves beforehand they were all right at him (good positioning) but we cannot let those kind of goals in regularly, thats just poor keeping.

 

[Gray]

Anyone seen Carragher comments about the rags win. Best 30 minutes of football he has seen, and even at full strength we would have struggled to cope. YCNMIU.

Utter twat hate the adenoidal muttering fool.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

If he wants that go back to us versus Chelsea at home last year or us versus Watford this year.

 

[Roachy]

No idea how we let Martial to make a shot without even closing him down properly to block his shot when here is just getting a pass from James.

4 vs 2 fucking hell.

The fact we fail in a 4 vs 2 is rubbish. Next moment is that he shooting and its 2-0. We make it easy for them, why? Nobody is making easy for us, well Burnley did as they were fucking awful but even Spurs ripped them apart same way 3 days later.

If you make it easy for opponent you will get punished.

Mate, that was why I was so thoroughly pissed off Sun morning. A derby defeat always hurts, but when you know what our team is capable of then it hurts that little bit more. We really did make it far too easy for them like you say.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

After the money they' ve paid they are entitled to an opinion.

That's what I tell 'em 'You're all entitled to your wildly varying opinions'. The classic is 'And I'm not the only one who says this' [points to someone we can't make out in the East Stand] - as though the bloke in the East Stand's agreement makes all the difference and gives their comment added value.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Pep doesn't set up the same way against everybody but he he does stick to his key principles. I don't think he so obviously changes things at City as for instance he did in his last season at Bayern when I recall looking at the average positions in his team over a run of games and he quite clearly used something like six different formations in seven games.

I think a lot of the changes he makes for each game plan are not easy to spot and I'm not a football analyst but I think I can spot in some games where particular movements or passes are being made that seem to be repeated that look as though they have been planned for that game. More obviously, his team selection varies not just through rotation but also in response to specific opponents.

I'm not really inclined towards picking out Pep's faults: plenty of others seem keen to do that. Whether it is a fault or not is debatable but I would be more cautious in some games. He may need to adapt how his team plays as we could be stuck in a bit of a rut butting up against an interminable procession of parked buses but only time will tell that: new player recruitment may just lead to his team executing his way more effectively and that will solve the problem. His approach may inhibit some players and deny them enough freedom to express themselves; it may also drain them. Again, time will tell.
Oh and he talks about the Scousers too much but the media don't exactly make it easy for him.

During his introduction at the training ground with Sally Nugent interviewing him, he said something to the effect of 'You see the players available and make the most of what they've got, no point in suddenly asking them to play a certain way if they're not suited'. The thing that equal's Pep's man management and tactical genius is his ability to improve players. One thing you'll hear from players at his previous clubs is that he improved them, regardless of whether they were 33 year old superstars who thought they were on the slide or teenagers.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I follow City and if I see something is wrong I am going to give my opinion, that's a big part of why I have been going for nearly 50 years.
If Pep continues to build this team around David Silva I will be telling him he is wrong.

This is not personal , it's City and I have spent all my life wanting us to win.

Does anyone pay you to coach players ?

 

[toffee balls]

Am I wrong.

 

[WhereWereWeWhenWeWereWhat]

Ffs sake,we were in 4 comps till april 8th,the dippers binned both cups off whilst we won them instead,that is the worst post i have read this season and i read them all,still ken likes it so you have achieved that at least

So true.
Don’t know how people can compare our workload to theirs. Not only did we win the domestic treble giving us more games we also kept this high intensity pressing football for two seasons getting 198 between them.
We did this under disgraceful officiating and constant injuries to key figures in the team. This year these things have finally caught up with us and we’ve lost a lot of our edge but for fans to not understand how much work those players have done for us over the last three years boils my piss.

If Dipperpool do manage a similar or even better points total from this season and last then fair enough but even then they've not had to jump through anywhere near the amount of hoops we have.

 

[Roachy]

That's what I tell 'em 'You're all entitled to your wildly varying opinions'. The classic is 'And I'm not the only one who says this' [points to someone we can't make out in the East Stand] - as though the bloke in the East Stand's agreement makes all the difference and gives their comment added value.

Fair one that Harry.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

So true.
Don’t know how people can compare our workload to theirs. Not only did we win the domestic treble giving us more games we also kept this high intensity pressing football for two seasons getting 198 between them.
We did this under disgraceful officiating and constant injuries to key figures in the team. This year these things have finally caught up with us and we’ve lost a lot of our edge but for fans to not understand how much work those players have done for us over the last three years boils my piss.

If Dipperpool do manage a similar or even better points total from this season and last then fair enough but even then they've not had to jump through anywhere near the amount of hoops we have.

I agree with Karen7 and I agree with this post totally. I remember at the start of the '18-'19 season thinking that it was highly unlikely that we would retain the PL title because we had got 100 points the season before AND won the Carabao cup. I believed that it would be hard to replicate the work rate, the intensity and the sheer desire that secured an unprecedented one hundred points. How wrong these magnificent players proved me! Pep proved he was even more of a genius than I thought! 98 points this time, plus the Carabao cup again, the FA cup and the community shield. And now we have supporters who think we're entitled to the PL title as a matter of course, and the players are letting them down - every defeat is because the lads "can't be arsed" or they "simply don't care". The effort both physical and psychological to reproduce the form of '17-'19 is of a degree I can't even dream and that's leaving aside the class needed to produce it. And it gets harder every season. So if we have a disappointing season I'm still going to support City as much as ever but I'm certainly not going to criticise a squad and a management which have given us the two best seasons any club as ever had. It has been a privilege to have lived through the last two seasons and I'll keep my fingers crossed for the rest of this season and those to come. Pep will put everything right.