Predator drones

Josh Blue said:
Ragnarok said:
Josh Blue said:
There is some disgusting threads being said in this thread and you've just sunk down to their level.

I am mocking their indifference to civilian lives as long they are not from the US/EU

I understand your point, it's a valid one but you've said it in poor taste.

It might be in poor taste, but it shouldnt be a problem for them as they clearly feel that such things happen in war, so it appears to be acceptable to them?
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
west didsblue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
You think it's legitimate to advocate the death of innocent people in the hope that somehow some greater good can be achieved?

If you read my post properly you would have seen that I said it is legitimate to have a discussion about whether 20% collateral damage was acceptable. I didn't actually say it was acceptable and I certainly didn't advocate the death of innocent people.

I'd personally see a discussion about whether killing children is ever legitimate as in poor taste.

20% isn't OK. 1% isn't OK. We're none of us God.
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but if you don't children will probably die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
west didsblue said:
If you read my post properly you would have seen that I said it is legitimate to have a discussion about whether 20% collateral damage was acceptable. I didn't actually say it was acceptable and I certainly didn't advocate the death of innocent people.

I'd personally see a discussion about whether killing children is ever legitimate as in poor taste.

20% isn't OK. 1% isn't OK. We're none of us God.
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but if you don't children will probably die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?

That is the stupidest shit i've ever read outside the transfer forum.
 
Josh Blue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
I'd personally see a discussion about whether killing children is ever legitimate as in poor taste.

20% isn't OK. 1% isn't OK. We're none of us God.
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but if you don't children will probably die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?

That is the stupidest shit i've ever read outside the transfer forum.

Embarrassing.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but if you don't children will probably die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?

You do whatever your culture has told you is right when faced with a logically insane question like that.

Do you kill 500,000 at the start of WWI if it meant it ended on day 1?

Do you drop the nuke at the start of WWII if it stopped it on day 1?

The answers are a logical yes it's just that it's insane to get to the point where you have to answer these questions.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
west didsblue said:
If you read my post properly you would have seen that I said it is legitimate to have a discussion about whether 20% collateral damage was acceptable. I didn't actually say it was acceptable and I certainly didn't advocate the death of innocent people.

I'd personally see a discussion about whether killing children is ever legitimate as in poor taste.

20% isn't OK. 1% isn't OK. We're none of us God.
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but f you do children will die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?

I'm dubious as to the 'intelligence' on these 'known terrorists', it sounds like bullshit.

I'm not choosing to kill any children, sorry.

I may be an idealist but rather that than be able to justify the killing of human beings in order to achieve a greater good. It's terrorism in my book.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
west didsblue said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
I'd personally see a discussion about whether killing children is ever legitimate as in poor taste.

20% isn't OK. 1% isn't OK. We're none of us God.
Perhaps we should have surrendered to Germany in 1939 in case we accidentally killed a German civilian.

Good comeback, that, mention the war.
Well I think it makes a valid point.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Let's join Damocles world of GCSE level moral dilemmas. A group of known terrorists has been infiltrated by an intelligence agent. He tells you that they're planning an attack on the MEN Arena during a Disney On Ice show that will lead to the deaths of children. The terrorists know that drones are looking for them so they meet in a school believing they'll be safe. You have one chance to take them all out but if you don't children will probably die. If you do, children will probably die. What do you do?

You do whatever your culture has told you is right when faced with a logically insane question like that.

Exactly and I never chose a side so I can't really pick because I don't see Muslims as bad children or Jews as bad children, I just see them as kids but then I am known for being a hippy so I might just be mental.
 
The fact that Prestwich_Blue actually bothered to think up this ridiculous scenario which in no way relates to the use of predator drones is insane, scary and pathetic all at the same time.

It is cowardice act to try and legitimise the killing of any innocent peoples.
 

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