Premier League B Teams in lower leagues

[Ruhr]

Germany getting rid of b teams as well.

Found this on another forum, from a German football fan:

How long have they been planning this?

Because if they're really modelling it on other European countries, then they have missed out on a recent debate in Germany, where some Bundesliga clubs feel that having a reserve team compete in the lower leagues is pointless. Leverkusen and Frankfurt will remove their teams next season and others may follow soon.

When you look at the biggest German talents you notice that most skipped the reserve teams and were promoted straight from U19 to the first team. Others had only a few games with the reserves in the third or fourth league.

The best talents, the ones who should be on England's radar, will always make the straight jump to the first team or at least be good enough to be signed (on loan) by fellow Premier League and Championship clubs.

No point in destroying the football league pyramid and damaging lower league sides for maybe a handful of players who may from this.

The current crop of England players show that you can make it to the first team early on in the career if you're talented enough and more importantly, if the clubs give you a chance.

It looks like this being done for the sake of doing something.

tl;dr:

Bad for FL and Conference clubs, not too beneficial for Premier League clubs and rather pointless for the FA in the long run. Future England internationals are not made by playing them in the third division as kids.

I seriously can't believe they're going ahead with this. Fucking up over a century of tradition just to possibly, maybe, perhaps, get England to win a game or two more than in a decades time. Citing other leagues doing the same when it isn't even the reason they're better than us. The fact is their academies are better. For Germany, players like Özil, Götze, Draxler, Schürrle or Ginter NEVER played for the B team. They were all fast-tracked to the first teams. Their academies were good enough to produce players of that calibre. Ours are shit, but we've recently put the seeds in place to start changing that. Look at our new Etihad campus, for example.

There's absolutely no justification for a B team league. The FA can go fuck themselves.

Please sign here if you agree: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/t ... to-b-teams</a>

Absolutely right. Youth academies are so good these days in germany, that players make it to the first team without playing in the B team. The U19 Bundesliga is the place for talents these days.

The B teams are hated in lower leagues, as they don´t have fans. And for local derbies, the german FA used to schedule them at the same time, when the A team plays, so that fans can´t visit the B team (for security reasons)

 

[BlueHammer85]

is this going to happen ?

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

is this going to happen ?

It better fucking not do.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

as viera predicted the white elephant of st georges gets its annual run out with england dyke bitches about us being successful he threatens to change the rules with city just starting to dominate the youth set up vieras reply was simple go ahead we will do that as well some of what dyke said would help england but all will be lost because he could not control his hatred we dont need another league that kills of half the clubs in the country

 

[Falastur]

is this going to happen ?

Probably not. At the end of the day, it's just the recommendations of a committee. It would have to be approved by the FA for implementation first, and then it would have to be accepted by both the PL and the FL, plus it would need at least some acceptance from the Conference as they would be shedding a dozen members to make it happen. Quite frankly, right now it would not get the thumbs-up from either the FL or the Conf, and the result would be another year or two of bitter negotiations between the various bodies about how to make this work. Only after all that was done would you maybe, possibly see any sort of B-team implementation, but by that time the proposal would probably have been warped into a totally different idea.

 

[ROCKET80]

What this idea has done has started a debate on the future of the English game. B-Sides is probably not the best idea but at least it’s a start.

Talk of history and our nostalgia are some of the main things that hold the English back game from developing. The FA are partly to blame for this, we didn’t need a national stadium but their talk of 'history of the English game' decided we did. The money would have been better invested in developing our coaches at youth level and referee’s in general. Even helping out clubs that have stadiums in need of severe redevelopment.

Personally I’d like to see the Championship, Div1 and 2 reduced to 20 sides.

I’d like to see the refereeing on a par with the Premier League/European standards (as in taking out the physicality and allowing skill and technique to flourish, even bringing in foreign referees to help)

I think the bigger clubs should share their resources better with the local lower tiered teams e.g. City helping to run coaching courses and sharing some of their technical resources and research with clubs like Oldham and Stockport.

And finally the bigger clubs working with partner clubs abroad so the best young English talent can spend some time on loan with them. Helping to prepare them better to undertake that experience with language classes, annual tours/training camps to these countries helping the players to get to know the partner clubs well so it doesn’t feel intimidating/alien to them.

 

[cibaman]

The problem is that the sudden introduction of 10 new professional teams into the pyramid would be hugely disruptive. Particularly as the PL clubs would want their B teams to be playing as far up the pyramid as they're allowed and would put the resources into making that happen.

Perhaps they could phase it in? Each year relegate one extra L2 club with that place being allocated to the winner of the U21 final. There would still be movement from the Conference to L2. The promotion places wouldn't be dominated by B teams. Do that for 5 years, see how the experiment is working.