Premier League Games | 13/14 September '25

dubblue said:
Yeh I agree with that.
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Unfortunately it’s quite apparent and it’s not usually soft penalties (which occasionally they get help with) it’s more the fact that if there’s a nailed on penalty (like today tbf) them and Utd will ALWAYS get it. Like always, even without review. We on the other hand probably get 50% of those (even after review) making it much harder for us and throws they make their own luck an unfair notion.
 
dubblue said:
I don’t think it’s nailed on if it was for us. I honestly believe that too
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Exactly, we have seen it time and again. Game against LiVARpool a few seasons ago, two blatant handball, both in the box, both ignored. They scored from one of them. Three penalty shouted in the same game all ignored. There was the Skrtl handball years ago, more of the same.
 
laplandblue said:
Exactly, we have seen it time and again. Game against LiVARpool a few seasons ago, two blatant handball, both in the box, both ignored. They scored from one of them. Three penalty shouted in the same game all ignored. There was the Skrtl handball years ago, more of the same.
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I forgot about Skrtel punching the ball away in injury time. That almost cost us the title in 2014. Clattenberg was looking straight at it. Suarez also should have been sent off with a second booking for diving. The list is endless.
 
dubblue said:
I forgot about Skrtel punching the ball away in injury time. That almost cost us the title in 2014. Clattenberg was looking straight at it. Suarez also should have been sent off with a second booking for diving. The list is endless.
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Yet some still refuse to believe there is an agenda. Five games in, including the charity sheild and they have been given favourable, potentially game changing decisions in every game.
 
How can one watch Liverpool and think the league is theirs? Poor today vs one of the worst teams, bailed out by a silly mistake.
 
alexmcity said:
How can one watch Liverpool and think the league is theirs? Poor today vs one of the worst teams, bailed out by a silly mistake.
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4 late winners in their 4 PL games so far. Hate to say it, but that's the sort of luck you need to win titles. Even in our Centurions season, we got a few last minute winners. Bournemouth away, and both games against Saints spring to mind immediately. I'll guess there were one or two more. It stings in as much as they've done it in 4 successive games. They're on 12 pts, but it could easily be somewhere 4 and 7.
 
alexmcity said:
How can one watch Liverpool and think the league is theirs? Poor today vs one of the worst teams, bailed out by a silly mistake.
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Because they've been shit / average in 4 games and have 12 points.

As someone said previously, hopefully it is a case of them them looking like us last season.

They have some fucking luck though, Jesus.
 
The point is being made that they’re playing shit but getting all the points, and that’s fair enough!
But that kind of stuff ideally wants to be happening during the heavier and harder parts of the season, not three games in!
I’ve yet to be convinced by Liverpool I think they’re ok borrowed time. We’ll see how they deal when they drop points and the pressure builds!

Having said that they’ll probably win it anyway for virtue of everyone else being shit and/or yet to prove themselves emotionally (looking at you Arsenal)
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Just give an indirect free kick unless it is indisputably intentional like Suarez clearing off the line (the kind of handballs that today justify a red).

Would be much more sensible than giving a penalty because the ball has ricocheted and accidentally brushed off somebody’s little finger 6 inches into the corner of the box.
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Would you say the same if we were in the same situation, going for a win in injury time and the opposition stop a cross into the box by handling it?

Imagine if yesterday's Derby was 0-0 on 93 minutes and Fernandes handballed a Reijnders cross in to Haaland and did his usual running after the referee shaking his finger while whinging and we didn’t get a penalty for it…
 
.db. said:
Would you say the same if we were in the same situation, going for a win in injury time and the opposition stop a cross into the box by handling it?

Imagine if yesterday's Derby was 0-0 on 93 minutes and Fernandes handballed a Reijnders cross in to Haaland and did his usual running after the referee shaking his finger while whinging and we didn’t get a penalty for it…
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In my hypothetical world where the standard for intentional handball is extremely high then yes I would say the same, and have said the same. I hate benefiting from these obviously unintentional handballs as much as I hate seeing them given against us. And to be clear, the offending team are still getting punished here with my suggestion. There’s a reason goalkeepers don’t pick up back passes even under pressure. Giving an indirect free kick in your box is dangerous, it’s just not as much of a certain game-ruining goal as a cheesy penalty.

There’s plenty of handballs where we just know it cannot possibly be intentional. Getting the ball blasted at you from one yard away, or when the player is facing the other way (Grealish in the cup final comes to mind).

We’ve gone really soft on handballs in the last 20 years to the point where it’s ridiculous. It used to be that you really had to take the piss to get a handball given against you, and that’s how it should be because that’s the spirit of the law. Not getting your microscope out to see how far away an arm is from the defender’s body.
 
alexmcity said:
How can one watch Liverpool and think the league is theirs? Poor today vs one of the worst teams, bailed out by a silly mistake.
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As long as those worst teams keep making fucking ludicrous decisions when playing them, there is nowt we can do.

Time and time again we see teams play brilliantly and go 1 or even 2 up against them, or play resiliantly to hold them for a point. Only for a player to dive in and give them a free kick in a dangerous position, or a penalty or get sent off.

We never seem to get those brain farts when we play a team that we are struggling to break down.
 
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