Premier League Games 26th July

[JimB]

No it wasn't at all , I was using upper case to emphasise that you, JimB, should try and correlate how your consistently god awful team achieve their relative success time and again.

Well, I guess that there are two answers as to why they achieve relative success.

Firstly, they obviously haven't been consistently godawful. Or at least, they have consistently been far less godawful than all but two or three other teams over the past five years or so.

Secondly, the fact that they have so often come up short of winning trophies suggests that they lack the necessary mentality to get over the line.

Other than that, I genuinely don't know what you're trying to get at.

Go on then , state your VAR gripes . Leicester away I'll give you that.

I don't really have gripes. There have been a number of decisions that have gone our way and, I think, a slightly greater number that have gone against us. It's not something that I complain about. I only mention it when others wrongly claim that Spurs have been excessively favoured by VAR.

 

[Toffeedude]

I can see Carlo fucking off Pickford first He'll get in players he can trust. You can have Stones back on loan If he fancies him.

Doubt the fans would have Stones back..I would though. Pickford is a strange one as he clearly has ability, but the mess ups are too much.

 

[penguins4kompany]

So explain how despite being the inferior side in all of their 6 matches in the knockout stages of the CL last season they still got through to the final. BorussiA Dortmund x 2, City x2(bar possibly your home game but still think we had the nod) and Ajax x 2. And then that lack of ability was rightfully/cruelly exposed in one of the worst finals ever seen .

 

[pudge]

How terrible that they should be happy about qualifying for Europe having taken over with Spurs in 14th and having had to cope with long term injuries to a number of key players. Not to mention an unbalanced squad with some gaping holes.

Shame on them for showing their emotions! ;-)



What isn’t right? That, despite being still a work in progress, the team found a way to win?

You were three points off fifth position when he took over.

Don't try and embellish it with that 14th place shite as if you were in a relegation scrap.

 

[penguins4kompany]

Well, I guess that there are two answers as to why they achieve relative success.

Firstly, they obviously haven't been consistently godawful. Or at least, they have consistently been far less godawful than all but two or three other teams over the past five years or so.

Secondly, the fact that they have so often come up short of winning trophies suggests that they lack the necessary mentality to get over the line.

Other than that, I genuinely don't know what you're trying to get at.



I don't really have gripes. There have been a number of decisions that have gone our way and, I think, a slightly greater number that have gone against us. It's not something that I complain about. I only mention it when others wrongly claim that Spurs have been excessively favoured by VAR.

I don't think you realise how spurs operate. The table does lie , that line's a myth. You're not there on merit.
The getting over the line bit, the fact is you shouldn't have been near the line to start with. You blag your way to the line and then come a cropper when you can't preside an influence over the next hurdle.

 

[JimB]

You were three points off fifth position when he took over.

Don't try and embellish it with that 14th place shite as if you were in a relegation scrap.

But that only tells half the story, doesn't it? It wasn't just the position that Spurs were in that was of huge concern. It was also the direction in which they were headed. Over the previous two months in the Premier League, Spurs had won one, drawn three and lost three. They had also lost on penalties to Colchester in the League Cup and had been thumped 7-2 at home by Bayern. It was a team in disarray and utterly bereft of confidence.

 

[JimB]

I don't think you realise how spurs operate. The table does lie , that line's a myth. You're not there on merit.
The getting over the line bit, the fact is you shouldn't have been near the line to start with. You blag your way to the line and then come a cropper when you can't preside an influence over the next hurdle.

What are you chuntering about, you loon?!!

 

[penguins4kompany]

What are you chuntering about, you loon?!!

Incredulous denial, so how about the marketing drive of using the England national football team for your club's gains. To garner new fans to potentially fill your super new upcoming 60k seater stadium. Cynical marketing ploy, but a key one . The proof is in the pudding.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Pickford ending the season strongly with another De Gea impression. It’s been a cracking competition between those two clowns to see who can be the most calamitous this season.

 

[JimB]

So explain how despite being the inferior side in all of their 6 matches in the knockout stages of the CL last season they still got through to the final. BorussiA Dortmund x 2, City x2(bar possibly your home game but still think we had the nod) and Ajax x 2. And then that lack of ability was rightfully/cruelly exposed in one of the worst finals ever seen .

With respect, I don't believe that your impression of these games matches the facts.

After a tricky opening, Spurs dominated the home game against Dortmund and won comfortably, 3-0. Dortmund dominated the return leg but the job was already done once Kane scored the away goal.

Against City, Spurs were under the cosh in the first leg until the saved penalty but City really didn't threaten Spurs' goal very often thereafter. Spurs created much the better chances and fully deserved the win, IMO. City were obviously the better team in the second leg but Spurs were still a big threat throughout with 11 attempts on goal and 7 on target. It wasn't the kind of backs against the wall fluke that you seem to be suggesting.

Against Ajax, in the first leg, Spurs were missing both Kane and Son. And you could tell that it really affected the team. Ajax totally dominated the first half. Their passing and movement was breathtaking and they really should have been two, three or even four up at the break. The second half was a different story, though. Sissoko had come on at the end of the first half after injury to Verthongen. And the change of shape gave Spurs far more control. So even though we lacked threat without either of our key strikers, we controlled the play - to the extent that, by the end, Spurs had levelled up possession and slightly surpassed Ajax for attempts at goal.

The second leg was a bizarre game from beginning to end. Ajax raced into a two goal lead (3-0 on aggregate) but were lucky not to have conceded a couple themselves. In the second half, Spurs dominated. Sure, the winner came very, very late but it certainly wasn't undeserved - as borne out by the stats. Spurs enjoyed 60% possession throughout the game. And they had 24 attempts on goal (7 on target) to Ajax's 16 (4 on target).

The final was, of course, a huge let down. The penalty decision in the first minute enabled Liverpool to play a defensive game. And, despite dominating possession and chances, Spurs didn't have the spark on the night to break through. Nevertheless, Allisson was man of the match.