Present Day Football, Fans and Any Other Stuff You Hate About It!

- The game is now way too over-coached, and you are seeing the true effects of this with the younger generation of footballers coming through. It seems every player now needs to find a "system" to thrive within and all ingenuity is nowhere to be seen for the most part in their game.

The only positive to this is that i think the mid-table level teams have got better because of it. I think the current set of best of the rest would decimate the best of the rest 20 years ago.

- I might get jumped on for this but the FA and League Cup are both dead competitions now for the top teams. Champions League and Premier League just take precedence and if the new Club World Cup format takes off, with the money involved in that, it will be as important to be in it as the Champions League. It will be the difference between a team buying and not buying another £60m-£100m player.

- Manchester City are no longer a community association football club, they are a tourist club and a "global brand" who will happily sell their tickets and merchandise to the show to the highest bidder. This will only get worse in my opinion.
 
- The game is now way too over-coached, and you are seeing the true effects of this with the younger generation of footballers coming through. It seems every player now needs to find a "system" to thrive within and all ingenuity is nowhere to be seen for the most part in their game.

The only positive to this is that i think the mid-table level teams have got better because of it. I think the current set of best of the rest would decimate the best of the rest 20 years ago.

- I might get jumped on for this but the FA and League Cup are both dead competitions now for the top teams. Champions League and Premier League just take precedence and if the new Club World Cup format takes off, with the money involved in that, it will be as important to be in it as the Champions League. It will be the difference between a team buying and not buying another £60m-£100m player.

- Manchester City are no longer a community association football club, they are a tourist club and a "global brand" who will happily sell their tickets and merchandise to the show to the highest bidder. This will only get worse in my opinion.

Your last paragraph I agree and disagree.
Regarding tickets, ticket prices etc I agree.
But on the City in the community I think this is still going strong.
 
I'm the same age as you and agree with everything you say.

Yesterday I had an Arab lad next to me who spent the whole game on his phone, speaking into it and then looking down so he could post it on some site or other.

3 rag fans also sat near us.

I'm very fed up of it all and very near to packing it in.
It was the Same v Feynoord in SS3
 
It was a depressing sight on Sunday with the amount of half and half scarves, big groups of tourists milling round etc. Derby days used to be so intense plenty of hatred knocking around, absolutely none of that on display Sunday. The modern sanitised product is so shit now it does put you off going to the game
I don't miss the hatred tbh kicking off etc
 
The game is now way too over-coached, and you are seeing the true effects of this with the younger generation of footballers coming through. It seems every player now needs to find a "system" to thrive within and all ingenuity is nowhere to be seen for the most part in their game.
That's just a consequence of football growing. It grows, it becomes more professional, more research is done at academic level, more funding available, the standards become higher, etc. Individualism is punished more often by the opposition so players need to be smarter when using it.
Same happens with darts and snooker and rugby and a million other sports. The more seriously sports are taken, the more a clear line of how to be successful is drawn and margins become finer.
Arguably F1 is the best example of this. It's changed dramatically in the past 50 years to where now the difference between the world's champion and backrunner is a couple of percent because the meta has been figured out and now marginal gains are thr thing that wins.
 

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