Present Day Football, Fans and Any Other Stuff You Hate About It!

I wonder if there’s a thing in attention spans too.

Without going into the early leavers black hole (but I still don’t believe 25,000 people walking out on Sunday evening had a longer drive home then we did) but I just don’t get leaving early at all.

20/30/40 years ago you’d stay. You’d definitely not be going when it’s close, yet thousands do. Are they bored? Is their boredom threshold that low that the prospect of waiting 20 minutes for a tram/bus without entertainment is just anathema and they need to get out to prevent that happening?

Maybe it’s that modern (if that’s a thing) fans are only after entertainment and support is a different thing.

So that. That’s what I don’t like.
 
Where to start - Im also an old bugger (season ticket holder since 1977) - so have seen many changes in football. Things about the modern day match "experience" that bug me

- Fans spending more time filming the game, than actually watching it

- Champions League game tourists, doing the above and filming themselves at the game

- Half/Half scarves; they need banning, wtf is that about?

- Social media and Youtubers who pose as "experts" on City, the fans and the club - but dont actually go to any games. Theres a certain few whove become high profile too despite never doing any away days or even most of the homes, yet they come on spouting about the match day experience and speaking for City fans, when they have little or no idea of the joys of being kept in for an hour by the Italian Police, or being chased by a local mob of nutters outside Ayresome Park (one for the older gits like me there)

- Pre-match and half-time light shows. Just No

- 3rd kits/4th Kits for the team; 2 kits only should be needed, and our away shirt should always be red/black stripes as donned in the 1969 FA Cup Final and 1970 League and Cup Winners Cup finals

- Match day pricing; ticket prices at City are frankly ludicrous and if you havent got a season ticket Ive no idea how you can finance it on a regular basis. £61 to watch City v Forest on a cold Weds night in December? Nonsense

- European Super Leagues, and the realisation that when the club refers to long standing match going supporters as "legacy" fans, you realise they genuinely dont give much of a toss about you
 
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At last years home derby I saw loads of fans just filming the fucking fan reactions to goals or any bad fouls etc.
I went ballistic at 2 guys 3 rows down to me
Telling them to get that phone out of my face. They don’t even watch the game ffs.

Yeh I’m probably a miserable old **** but I don’t want some **** filming my ranting and raving.
 
give it to gordon said:
I think it's gone beyond the tipping point to be honest.
Can't see ticket prices coming down.
Can't see us being able to get seats next to each other.
The fight and price to get tickets has basically finished me of.

I think us FOC and so to be FOC are seen as not needed. We don't spend £££'s in the club shop each game, we don't do statium pre match tours. All we basically bring is our ticket price and a few beers.
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....but we FOCs (i'm 73) introduce our sons, daughters, grandchildren, cousins, friends etc into the City family to become lifelong 'core' fans.

Ive taken the generations of my extended family to games,tours and (occasional) hospitality. In turn we have all have bought products from the store for Xmas/birthday presents.

Once introduced, the club/fan relationship can be a virtuess circle of 'little but often' activity which is the essesence of the corner stones/foundations of most convential business's.

We understand the past but know little of the future, other than the game, life and technology is changing exponentially and not necessarily for the better.

ESL...games abroad.... in-house tv channels....unaffordable tickets.... etc etc.

Todays aligned youth could/will be tomorrows subscribers.

City would do well to ensure that they sow the seeds for future growth now, because the only thing thats constant is change !!
 
I said in the summer that this was likely to be my last as a season ticket holder and I've not felt any inclination to change my mind. I just find going to games a chore these days, including having to get there earlier and earlier to get a car parking spot. I do it out of a sense of duty now, having lost that feeling of anticipation and excitement in the build up to a game.

Perhaps it's me, perhaps it's the increasing corporatisation and sterility of the game, both on and off the pitch. I cried just walking into the Ataturk Stadium 18 months ago with the sheer emotion of being there and seeing City in a CL final. Perhaps that was the start of it, the sense that after years of hope and often despair, we'd got to the pinnacle.

But that experience, with the terrible logistics and the club completely failing to support us or even give lip service to supporting us, possibly left me with the feeling that I'm just a number on a spreadsheet. As a concessionary season ticket holder there's always the thought that the club doesn't value me and is seemingly more concerned about how it can 'manage me out' so it can increase the rate of return on my seat, rather than how we can be the best team in the world.

I work for a bank and we're always being told that we have to reduce our ratio of operating costs to revenue and increase our return on investment, and all that stuff. And I think that this sort of objective is now one that we have at City.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I said in the summer that this was likely to be my last as a season ticket holder and I've not felt any inclination to change my mind. I just find going to games a chore these days, including having to get there earlier and earlier to get a car parking spot. I do it out of a sense of duty now, having lost that feeling of anticipation and excitement in the build up to a game.

Perhaps it's me, perhaps it's the increasing corporatisation and sterility of the game, both on and off the pitch. I cried just walking into the Ataturk Stadium 18 months ago with the sheer emotion of being there and seeing City in a CL final. Perhaps that was the start of it, the sense that after years of hope and often despair, we'd got to the pinnacle.

But that experience, with the terrible logistics and the club completely failing to support us or even give lip service to supporting us, possibly left me with the feeling that I'm just a number on a spreadsheet. As a concessionary season ticket holder there's always the thought that the club doesn't value me and is seemingly more concerned about how it can 'manage me out' so it can increase the rate of return on my seat, rather than how we can be the best team in the world.

I work for a bank and we're always being told that we have to reduce our ratio of operating costs to revenue and increase our return on investment, and all that stuff. And I think that this sort of objective is now one that we have at City.
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The lack of support from the club after the Istanbul fiasco was shameful.
 
I hate only winning one in eleven games.
But old enough to understand you can't keep winning. FOUR IN A ROW
Unable to take my grandson to more away grounds we only get to four or five a season (14,000 points) and can't afford European games.
Wokeness here on BLUEMOON after being told calling the RAGS rags is poverty abusive.(use to call them something beginning with M).
Cheating,Diving,Time wasting,fake head injuries.
No transparency regarding away ticket allocation and how hundreds of seats are filled with away fans in the biggest home games of the season.
Still love attending the Etihad for every hone game and away when it's possible and don't intend stopping. CTID
 
Lee the Blue said:
- Social media and Youtubers who pose as "experts" on City, the fans and the club - but dont actually go to any games. Theres a certain few whove become high profile too despite never doing any away days or even most of the homes, yet they come on spouting about the match day experience and speaking for City fans, when they have little or no idea of the joys of being kept in for an hour by the Italian Police, or being chased by a local mob of nutters outside Ayresome Park (one for the older gits like me there)
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Don't mention Ayresome Park, I've already done a thread about being arrested there in 1984, grim as hell that place was.
 
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