President Joe Biden

Right, I would like people to have healthcare, therefore I'm going to vote for the guy who isn't actively trying to take healthcare away from people.

Also, I asked you to reply with whatever else you'd like me to address. It's not my fault you didn't read to the bottom of my post.

It's also not my fault you ignored questions I asked earlier.

Anyway...

The Repubs have always done this, non? Obama took Romneycare and turned it into Obamacare, right?

Biden's plan leaves 10-11M off his own plan including his COVID addition.

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/9/21210353/coronavirus-health-insurance-biden-sanders-medicare-for-all

Crazy to reject M4A.
 
It's also not my fault you ignored questions I asked earlier.

Anyway...

The Repubs have always done this, non? Obama took Romneycare and turned it into Obamacare, right?

Biden's plan leaves 10-11M off his own plan including his COVID addition.

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/9/21210353/coronavirus-health-insurance-biden-sanders-medicare-for-all

Crazy to reject M4A.
The Republicans have always done what? It's true that Obamacare was mostly based on Romney's plan that he put in place for Massachusetts, which in turn was based on a proposal by the Heritage Foundation. And it worked, both plans significantly increased coverage. Obamacare gave millions of Americans health coverage and access to Medicaide. In recent years though the Republicans have been trying to destroy Obamacare and are actively trying to take away health care. They literally have a case in the courts right now trying to do so. There couldn't be a starker distinction.
 
I haven't got a dog in this fight, being from and living in, the UK but I have to say - and I cannot believe I'm about to say this - if I was an American given the choice in front of me I would almost certainly vote for trump.

Biden, like Clinton before him, is the perfect example of a privileged liberal elitest who views his "base" as scum to be patronised and spoken down to.

Trump isn't much better but if you have a choice between two twats I'd always choose the twat that actually believes in more of what he says than the twat that says what he thinks you want to hear but doesn't believe it himself.

Hope that helps.

give over.
 
You can believe whatever you like about me. Knowing that Biden is as culpable as the Cage Builder & 'Deporter-n-Chief', how much difference would Biden make to immigration? There's also "the less fortunate" that can't afford healthcare.

I note, again, you haven't answered previous questions I asked.

Please don't be a hypocrite with me if you're ignoring my set of questions.
Just so we are being accurate, Obama/Biden built the cages they just became popular under Trump. And Obama/Biden deported more Mexicans than Trump.

https://thehill.com/latino/470900-deportations-lower-under-trump-than-obama-report

Thanks for that. It seems while the Dems added stuff to the bill, at it's core both bills are pretty similar. Commiting a significant amount of money to the relief project.
 
Just so we are being accurate, Obama/Biden built the cages they just became popular under Trump. And Obama/Biden deported more Mexicans than Trump.

https://thehill.com/latino/470900-deportations-lower-under-trump-than-obama-report
The actual presence of detention centers isn't the issue, it's the practice of intentionally separating children from their parents and letting the facilities and conditions writ large become oppressive, which the Trump administration has carried out, that I find objectionable. I don't believe in free migration over the border either, there have to be rules, but there is a difference in the two administrations handling of the situation from a humane perspective. More important in my eyes though is the treatment of DREAMers. How are you going to deport people who have built lives in this country for 20-30 years in some cases because of a choice their parents made when they were children? It's ridiculous. They don't even have families to go back to in many cases. Again, there are clear differences.
 
The irony is I've actually stood in Nancy Pelosi's kitchen and eaten ice cream. Swear to God -- 100% true story.
But what kind of ice cream??

I've (unfortunately) had the pleasure of meeting Donald and Ivanka on one occasion each. Back when he was just a failed real estate developer his shitty company was seeking to do business with the firm I was part of at the time (which was declined, though that decision was made far above my head).
 
But what kind of ice cream??

I've (unfortunately) had the pleasure of meeting Donald and Ivanka on one occasion each. Back when he was just a failed real estate developer his shitty company was seeking to do business with the firm I was part of at the time (which was declined, though that decision was made far above my head).

No idea. I was like 12. Her family and mine used to swim at the same community pool north of SF. We went to their house one day. I got to know one of her kids better as an adult -- her daughter went to college with me and dated a friend of mine (she was WILD in school). Her nephew who I didn't meet until much later is a friend of mine and a really great fellow.
 

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