Bigga
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Mmm, no.
You have a linear viewpoint and if that's your lane, nothing else will enter it or expand it.
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Mmm, no.
You have a linear viewpoint and if that's your lane, nothing else will enter it or expand it.
Bigga
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Trump doesn't rely on people determining whether he's racist, he relies upon people discussing whether he's racist so that one side can shout (or even shoot) at the other. All he has to do is ensure that division remains.
You just cannot underestimate the type of populism we are seeing and it has nothing to do with one side vs the other, race vs race, the narrative on those things has been created in order to divide society.
As they say divide and conquer, his only challenge to winning the election is how to divide democrats. He probably won though the day the democrats decided to put a white, old and almost right-leaning conservative up as their candidate.
A very good point from the opposite view and all true.
Bigga
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People say that, but you don't win by getting the loony left really excited about you, you win by being an acceptable face for people across the spectrum to vote for you. The far left are loud, but frankly they are shit. They can't agree on anything, they attack anyone not as extreme as them and are hugely off putting to pretty much everyone. Not sure how many times and how badly Corbyn has to lose, to the worst candidates ever seen, before people realise this.
Conversations with people like yourself are pointless.
Especially when you utter such shit as "the loony left" in a place called America, where everything is right, extreme right and slightly left of right.
Bigga
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The interesting thing on Corbyn is he prevented a Tory majority in 2017 and that's with the Tories outright supporting Brexit. Take Brexit off the table, put Corbyn up against Boris today and I really don't know what would happen. Brexit was his downfall really and nothing else (not that I wanted a Corbyn government anyway). Almost as many people voted for Corbyn in 2017 as voted for Tony Blair in 1997 (who won a massive majority).
The US is a strange country, it's a place that seems hard-right, patriotic and nationalist yet it is the only country to my knowledge that has legalised cannabis and even legal single sex marriage in some states. In some places indeed it's right-wing and in others it's liberal but it's never really between the two so it's impossible to truly marry those together with a centrist. It's like saying let's reconcile the socialists and far-right by having the Lib Dems govern, it just doesn't work.
I wouldn't rule out people voting for something different if it was available but it isn't, it needs to be remembered that the lack of a fresh candidate is how Trump won 4 years ago. For this reason even some democrats don't want Biden but they've had no choice because of appeasement with a centre that actually doesn't seem to exist. The only argument left for Biden is quite simply "he isn't Trump" so we'll have to see if that is enough....
Again, hugely agreed with.
To paraphrase the NeoLib Wall St red wine drinking poster, it's like being offered a voter menu before you eat by the MSM/ NeoLib waiter. On the menu are 3 types of meals; two quite similar due to the ingredients that's easier to cook and one that looks quite fresh.
Voter is told "I recommend these two meals as they're the Chef speciality"
Voter looks at the bland offering, pauses and looks at third option.
"What about that one?"
"No", says the MSM waiter "That's an error, it shouldn't be there"
"But... It's on your menu...?" says Voter
"Look, you ****!" says MSM/ NeoLib waiter "These two fucking meals are your choices! Everyone else here is eating the same, so why are you being awkward"
Voter looks around and thinks, well it looks like everyone is eating the same shit. Voter has the choice to join the rest or walk out if the third meal is not offered.
That's the real dilemma, isn't it? Voters are told they can't change even if they've had enough of the same shit, year on year.
Just to be clear, is this nonsense about me or Foggy?Again, hugely agreed with.
To paraphrase the NeoLib Wall St red wine drinking poster, it's like being offered a voter menu before you eat by the MSM/ NeoLib waiter. On the menu are 3 types of meals; two quite similar due to the ingredients that's easier to cook and one that looks quite fresh.
Voter is told "I recommend these two meals as they're the Chef speciality"
Voter looks at the bland offering, pauses and looks at third option.
"What about that one?"
"No", says the MSM waiter "That's an error, it shouldn't be there"
"But... It's on your menu...?" says Voter
"Look, you ****!" says MSM/ NeoLib waiter "These two fucking meals are your choices! Everyone else here is eating the same, so why are you being awkward"
Voter looks around and thinks, well it looks like everyone is eating the same shit. Voter has the choice to join the rest or walk out if the third meal is not offered.
That's the real dilemma, isn't it? Voters are told they can't change even if they've had enough of the same shit, year on year.
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Even by your incredibly low standards, this is fucking terrible.Again, hugely agreed with.
To paraphrase the NeoLib Wall St red wine drinking poster, it's like being offered a voter menu before you eat by the MSM/ NeoLib waiter. On the menu are 3 types of meals; two quite similar due to the ingredients that's easier to cook and one that looks quite fresh.
Voter is told "I recommend these two meals as they're the Chef speciality"
Voter looks at the bland offering, pauses and looks at third option.
"What about that one?"
"No", says the MSM waiter "That's an error, it shouldn't be there"
"But... It's on your menu...?" says Voter
"Look, you ****!" says MSM/ NeoLib waiter "These two fucking meals are your choices! Everyone else here is eating the same, so why are you being awkward"
Voter looks around and thinks, well it looks like everyone is eating the same shit. Voter has the choice to join the rest or walk out if the third meal is not offered.
That's the real dilemma, isn't it? Voters are told they can't change even if they've had enough of the same shit, year on year.
Bigga
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Just to be clear, is this nonsense about me or Foggy?
Take your pick.
You're both much of a muchness.
Bigga
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Even by your incredibly low standards, this is fucking terrible.
If that's the case, then if I'm paraphrasing your mate, then his standards... that you agree with, are as "low" if not lower.
It's HIS example I ride on.
You guys are so stupid and pathetic you're just willing to negate anything I say despite the source!!
It just shows up how sad you lot are!
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I can't wait to go on the LA Galaxy forum to see what they are all thinking of Keir Starmer and loads of articles there about the British Police.
west didsblue
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No one’s stopping you.I can't wait to go on the LA Galaxy forum to see what they are all thinking of Keir Starmer and loads of articles there about the British Police.