President Joe Biden

[FogBlueInSanFran]

For Prof Bigga a true progressive is equivalent as "a true scotsman", nobody can live up to his expectations and even if they do, he will find a reason to call them a sellout at some point.

^^^^^This^^^^^

 

[franksinatra]

But you seem to set a very high bar for Biden even though by your own admission he’s unlikely to be able to push through any sort of radical agenda. Might help, and I’m talking about the UK here if those low paid “working class” who might benefit most from say the fairly radical agenda pushed by the Labour Party at the last election actually voted to give them a mandate to carry it out.

I never post in here but your last two posts resonate with me.

I agree a lot of Corbyn’s policies were not particularly radical but I was furious when he was elected as leader as I knew it guaranteed another period of Conservative governance as I knew the Press would drag up his past and portray his policies as a small step down from the Communist Manifesto.

To implement change sadly it has to be evolution rather than revolution. The power lies within the media and big business and any striking deviation to a more equitable society, although in the best interests of the majority, will only be supported by a minority after the press has ridiculed the policies.

Its the reason the only Labour leader of the past 40 years, was a bloke like Tony Blair, someone who could cross the divide and appeal to a much broader church

 

[Bigga]

It's probably something he has picked up from watching The Young Turks or other American political media over the years.

When I watched it and they used it (often presenters self-describing) I always saw it as an umbrella term for people who might be reformist in outlook. However, it includes people from liberals to anarchist and marxists.

For Prof. Bigga, a "true progressive" is probably the equivalent of "a true scotsman", nobody can live up to his expectations and even if they do, he will find a reason to call them a sellout at some point.

What a toolish response applauded by the expected tools on here.

The one thing I respect about journo is that he was not afraid to engage using civility. In which I respectfully returned.

I stopped with TYT years ago after some stuff didn't make sense. They've fallen massively from grace since then.

I'm not interested in what your opinion is of me, since you'd rather talk about me. You should do as your Foggy mate is BEGGING you to do.

Let him control the narrative of the thread so you can all circle jerk each other..

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

What a toolish response applauded by the expected tools on here.

The one thing I respect about journo is that he was afraid to engage using civility. In which I respectfully returned.

I stopped with TYT years ago after some stuff didn't make sense. They've fallen massively from grace since then.

I'm not interested in what your opinion is of me, since you'd rather talk about me. You should do as your Foggy mate is BEGGING you to do.

Let him control the narrative of the thread so you can all circle jerk each other..

Yes. We have already established you aren't a fan of TYT anymore, but you did watch them years ago.

 

[Bigga]

Yes. We have already established you aren't a fan of TYT anymore, but you did watch them years ago.

12 years ago.

Stopped about 5.

Still don't see your point.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

12 years ago.

Stopped about 5.

Still don't see your point.

Where does your use of "Progressive" word come from?

 

[Bigga]

Where does your use of "Progressive" word come from?

Heard it used about Kinnock.

Not to the mainstream it's used today.

Why?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Heard it used about Kinnock.

Not to the mainstream it's used today.

Why?

The reference to the TYT's was just because of somebody asking what it meant in the context of the thread.

As I said progessive is an imprecise term.

 

[Bigga]

The reference to the TYT's was just because of somebody asking what it meant in the context of the thread.

As I said progessive is an imprecise term.

Still don't understand why you asked the question, then.

Seems to me you wanted to make a point and stopped dead.

It is what it is.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Still don't understand why you asked the question, then.

Seems to me you wanted to make a point and stopped dead.

It is what it is.

Because I don't believe the stuff about Kinnock. You post so much American political media that it is unlikely that you haven't picked up the lexicon and been influenced by it. I'm not saying you are lying, just that what you believe isn't true.