President Trump

Gabriel said:
Returning to my medieval point, I would describe it as fealty rather than loyalty. Irrespective, it's perturbing to see it in a so-called democracy.
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Enforced loyalty, although many of them appear to have no shame, or indeed dignity.

Democracy is about speaking truth to power, beit at the ballot box or the debate chambers. Domocratic leaders should never command absolute loyaly in any functioning democracy.
 
SMB75 said:
Agreed but remember Stramer is a very weak PM, probably one of the worst the country has ever had.
I'm amazed he is still in place.
It needed someone firm to say "fuck off it's your war were not getting involved"
Instead Stramer dithered as per usual then let the US use the bases and thus putting our citizens at risk.
The rumour is that Ed Miliband is doing a lot of decision making on this as Stramer is out of his depth.
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Three fucking times you get a name wrong!
 
SMB75 said:
Agreed but remember Stramer is a very weak PM, probably one of the worst the country has ever had.
I'm amazed he is still in place.
It needed someone firm to say "fuck off it's your war were not getting involved"
Instead Stramer dithered as per usual then let the US use the bases and thus putting our citizens at risk.
The rumour is that Ed Miliband is doing a lot of decision making on this as Stramer is out of his depth.
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Absolute bollocks, and you know it
 
I see the republicans have given a shiny good America First award to go wi his FIFA peace award, they have no shame do they, how can they look at themselves or their families not say something, it’s disgraceful, surely dignity should come before anything else.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I see the republicans have given a shiny good America First award to go wi his FIFA peace award, they have no shame do they, how can they look at themselves or their families not say something, it’s disgraceful, surely dignity should come before anything else.
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None of them have any shame or dignity.

Ambition was more important.
 
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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No way us he getting impeached. Needs two thirds of the Senate to remove him.

He could literally get shown shagging a baby on national TV and that threshold wouldn’t be met.
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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True impeachment, i.e. removing him from office, requires 2/3 of the Senate, which will never happen unless the GOP turns on him, which it won't.

He doesn't have unchallenged power now and many of his initiatives have failed either in Congress or the courts. But his power over the military is pretty absolute. It's not clear that Congress actually has the legal power to constrain the President's use of the military, let alone the desire.
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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To impeach a president successfully, the House of Representatives must introduce the charges and a simple majority is enough to see it pass to the trial stage in the Senate. There, at least 67 senators must vote to convict.
Currently, the Democratic Party has a good chance of regaining control of the House of Representatives, but it may struggle to win outright control of the Senate, where it holds 45 seats, let alone enough to impeach Trump. Some 37 seats will be contested, I believe, 23 of which are Republican held.
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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Basically not possible for an impeachment to pass, as that requires Republican senators to vote to convict. 2/3rds of the senate have to vote to convict.

Lose the House of Representatives - seems almost inevitable at the moment, as the Republican majority is a handful. Likely that doing so would provoke the impeachment process (but see above).

Lose the Senate - needs a fairly big vote swing to do so. While 1 in 3 senators are up for election, most are safe and won't change. Democrats would need to flip 4 Republican senators, but may require a Texas senator to be flipped. A little bit difficult to tell from poll.s
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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Nothing for him.

You can impeach anyone as he's been impeached twice.

The problem is you need 67% of the senate to REMOVE him and you will not get that in any way possible because of the current and likely makeup of the senate even if the election goes very bad for him.

Basically the senate elections are only for 33% of the seats. He has enough buffer in there to keep doing what he's doing and no harm will come to him.
 
flook said:
Humour me for a moment if you will, and assume that the mid-terms go swimmingly, there's no interference, no fallout, and a big swing to the democrats. What are the implications to shitgibbon? What level of swing is needed to, for example, allow him to be impeached? or simply to remove his unchallenged power?
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To impeach:
Simple majority in House of Representatives, then goes to the Senate, needs 2/3 majority.

Current standings:
House of Representatives 435 seats (all voted on in November 2026)
Republicans: 218
Democrats: 214
Vacant:3
So for a majority Democrats need to to flip/win 4 seats more than they won last time (2024), to get a majority.


Senate 100 seats (35 seats in November 2026)
Republicans: 53
Democrats: 47
So for a 2/3 majority Democrats need to win 67 seats, 20 more.
Of the 35 seats up for election 22 are currently republican.
So given that some of those will be in die-hard Maga territory, they are unlikely to all be flipped, which would ensure that the 2/3 majority isn’t reached. But a swing to democrats in both houses might cause some Repulsion to get a backbone and vote for impeachment. You can but hope.

More likely is that the democrats gain control of both houses, which will stymie Trumps ability to govern without oversight (like what happened to Obama).

Assuming that the midterms
A) happen
B) aren’t declared void
C) insurrection act not invoked
 
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