Priced out? | Club announce that matchday tickets being reduced by up to 43% (p93)

There are conflicting figures but the main metric is anecdotal in as much what you can see with your own eyes. There are very few teenage fans going together with their mates (There are some) but this isn't going to build the next generation of blues.

If Chelsea's average age is 59 we wont be far shy of that number in a few years time.

If you're old enough you can remember cinemas being ramped to the gills on a Saturday, people could never have envisioned their demise but it happened.
You can see it clearly for premier league games. There are barely any groups of young people going to the games. I’m in the Colin bell stand currently and the only younger people I see attending are kids with their parents. Its the same in the other areas of the ground.

When those older fans stop attending who’s replacing them? It’s the same for most clubs as well. Younger people are not as interested in attending matches and in the main can’t afford to
 
Young people can't afford the private rent/mortgage and the price of match tickets. Plus heating, food young kiddies, school uniform etc.
Football is a luxury nowadays for alot of people. If you add travel cost to and from the games as well. Not all fans will live in Manchester.
The older generation have perhaps paid of their mortgage, kids have left home and have more money to spend on football.

Our owner could subsidised tickets but that then puts pressure on the financial rules.
 
You can see it clearly for premier league games. There are barely any groups of young people going to the games. I’m in the Colin bell stand currently and the only younger people I see attending are kids with their parents. Its the same in the other areas of the ground.

When those older fans stop attending who’s replacing them? It’s the same for most clubs as well. Younger people are not as interested in attending matches and in the main can’t afford to


It's almost as if the people running the clubs don't understand what football culture is.
 
Young people can't afford the private rent/mortgage and the price of match tickets. Plus heating, food young kiddies, school uniform etc.
Football is a luxury nowadays for alot of people. If you add travel cost to and from the games as well. Not all fans will live in Manchester.
The older generation have perhaps paid of their mortgage, kids have left home and have more money to spend on football.

Our owner could subsidised tickets but that then puts pressure on the financial rules.
I’d change the ticket age bracket. Currently it’s 18-21 for cheaper tickets. The problem is as soon as you turn 21 most younger people are either unemployed, at uni or in a minimum wage job. So there instantly priced out. Maybe 18-25 would encourage more young adults to attend
 
Like someone else said in another post, people just get out of the habit of going.

City have pushed and pushed and pushed prices up going back to about 2012 and it’s pushed too many local fans away. Especially with individual matchticket prices which were as high as £88 for adults and £48 for children in recent seasons, people have just packed it in. And in those dozen years, City have lost a generation of matchgoing fans across the city. Lose the kids and you lose the future support, and that’s what we’re seeing.

There are enough City fans in the conurbation of Manchester and surrounding areas alone to easily fill a 62,000 stadium if ticket prices had been thought with local fans in mind over the years. But in a decade and a half that started with austerity, stagnated salaries, then ever increasing food and energy prices… football just became a luxury that was a step too far with how much prices kept being pushed up.

Now, so many locals are used to not even looking at getting tickets due to the price rises over the years, and are so used to not going to games, we aren’t even selling out 53,000 but will have a 62,000 ground to fill soon.

The culture of Mancunian City fans of going to the football has been massively diluted. I know nine…ten times the number of City fans who don’t ever go to a game than who do go to any games at all. I know around two-dozen ex-ST holders who either never go to games or now only ever go to the FA Cup early rounds, many because it’s the only games they can afford to bring their kids (we get better FA Cup early round attendances than we do CL group game attendances, so that tells you a great deal!… Newcastle had well over 100,000 fans try and get tickets for their recent game with Barcelona, we barely even scrape half that for CL Group games). How have we got to a situation where we’re in the greatest era in the club’s history yet there’s no big local culture of going to the game across our local support?

The price drops this season haven’t made any difference to it, it’s come too late, the damage was already done and we’ve just lost too much of the local match going culture. We are now massively relying on the tourist attendees… and you can hear it in our diabolical atmospheres over the last few years, it’s flat as a pancake every week now. Even the tourists aren’t coming this season like they were in the previous three seasons or so, as it’s clear where the ticket tout sites have returned chunks of seats back to the club late because they’ve not been able to shift them, you can see them around the ground.
not having a go but yoou say newcastle had 100 thousand apply for barca tickets hows it ended up wher we dont get half that ? id guess is it 15 years in cl compared to 2 so shinny new toy lets see when every season asked to cough up. look at villa took piss out of city not selling out then they announced their cl tickets prices cue outrage again 1 or 2 seasons the price of football in general is killing support and amount of games cl even more pointless games than before
 
1981 English football ticket prices:

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Average British salary in 1981 was £7,300, today it’s £37,800.

The average top flight individual match seated ticket in 1981 was £2.64, so going off the rise in salaries today they should cost £13.67 per match.

The average top flight season ticket in 1981 was £51.40, so today should be £266.20 per season (which is about the price of 50% of all Bundesliga season tickets).
 
1981 English football ticket prices:

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Average British salary in 1981 was £7,300, today it’s £37,800.

The average top flight individual match seated ticket in 1981 was £2.64, so going off the rise in salaries today they should cost £13.67 per match.

The average top flight season ticket in 1981 was £51.40, so today should be £266.20 per season (which is about the price of 50% of all Bundesliga season tickets).


When they say that football has been gentrified they really do mean it.
 
IMHO when the older fans get a lot older football will end up being everyone's second sport, if youngsters aren't involved now the plug can't and wont be plugged by tourists forever.
might end up with new initatives like in cricket twenty 20 games because kids concentration span is reducing how about 15 minutes each way ? 15 fifthteen lol
everton will still have sommeone laydown for half of it
 
Young people can't afford the private rent/mortgage and the price of match tickets. Plus heating, food young kiddies, school uniform etc.
Football is a luxury nowadays for alot of people. If you add travel cost to and from the games as well. Not all fans will live in Manchester.
The older generation have perhaps paid of their mortgage, kids have left home and have more money to spend on football.

Our owner could subsidised tickets but that then puts pressure on the financial rules.
screwing fans out of money shouldnt count to financial rules easy for clubs built 60+ thousand seat stadiums saying we generate X so should you when no rules to big they built stadium
 
1981 English football ticket prices:

View attachment 172583


Average British salary in 1981 was £7,300, today it’s £37,800.

The average top flight individual match seated ticket in 1981 was £2.64, so going off the rise in salaries today they should cost £13.67 per match.

The average top flight season ticket in 1981 was £51.40, so today should be £266.20 per season (which is about the price of 50% of all Bundesliga season tickets).
That was when football needed fans.
Proper fans now are a pain in the arse to top clubs.
Taking a seat up that a tourist or some prick off tiktok would pay hundreds to use.
There's a shock coming to clubs and the greedy bastard premier league
 
1981 English football ticket prices:

View attachment 172583


Average British salary in 1981 was £7,300, today it’s £37,800.

The average top flight individual match seated ticket in 1981 was £2.64, so going off the rise in salaries today they should cost £13.67 per match.

The average top flight season ticket in 1981 was £51.40, so today should be £266.20 per season (which is about the price of 50% of all Bundesliga season tickets).
City had an average crowd of only 32k in 1981 and had one crowd of 50k.
 
The close to half being 19% from 18 to 35 (above) so less than that for 18 to 34?

Makes no sense?
Very few of that under 18 will be below 16 and 18-34 will likely be skewed nearer to the top.

One other factor behind the "where are the young people". We've been having around a third as many children as we did at the peak in the 60s for quite some time.
 
Yesterday I got talking to a young lad who had travelled from Warsaw to the game. He had paid €75 for his ticket and a further €425 on flights into Leeds that morning, train to Manchester and accommodation that evening in Liverpool so that he was able to catch an early flight back home on Sunday. He had never been to the Etihad previously but was very excited about his first visit. When we arrived at the campus he was immediately told his bag needed to be placed in the storage container close to K entrance. I was embarrassed when we arrived and he was given a receipt for his bag and told to pay an additional £10 for looking after his bag. Nearly everyone who was putting bags into storage was a visitor, and I couldn’t help think, haven’t we had enough from these people.
Sometimes I just think the club can’t resist another revenue stream.
 
I’d change the ticket age bracket. Currently it’s 18-21 for cheaper tickets. The problem is as soon as you turn 21 most younger people are either unemployed, at uni or in a minimum wage job. So there instantly priced out. Maybe 18-25 would encourage more young adults to attend
Excellent suggestion.
 
Yesterday I got talking to a young lad who had travelled from Warsaw to the game. He had paid €75 for his ticket and a further €425 on flights into Leeds that morning, train to Manchester and accommodation that evening in Liverpool so that he was able to catch an early flight back home on Sunday. He had never been to the Etihad previously but was very excited about his first visit. When we arrived at the campus he was immediately told his bag needed to be placed in the storage container close to K entrance. I was embarrassed when we arrived and he was given a receipt for his bag and told to pay an additional £10 for looking after his bag. Nearly everyone who was putting bags into storage was a visitor, and I couldn’t help think, haven’t we had enough from these people.
Sometimes I just think the club can’t resist another revenue stream.
Did you pay the lads tenner?
 
Yesterday I got talking to a young lad who had travelled from Warsaw to the game. He had paid €75 for his ticket and a further €425 on flights into Leeds that morning, train to Manchester and accommodation that evening in Liverpool so that he was able to catch an early flight back home on Sunday. He had never been to the Etihad previously but was very excited about his first visit. When we arrived at the campus he was immediately told his bag needed to be placed in the storage container close to K entrance. I was embarrassed when we arrived and he was given a receipt for his bag and told to pay an additional £10 for looking after his bag. Nearly everyone who was putting bags into storage was a visitor, and I couldn’t help think, haven’t we had enough from these people.
Sometimes I just think the club can’t resist another revenue stream.
did he know how everton spoil the game
 
I’d change the ticket age bracket. Currently it’s 18-21 for cheaper tickets. The problem is as soon as you turn 21 most younger people are either unemployed, at uni or in a minimum wage job. So there instantly priced out. Maybe 18-25 would encourage more young adults to attend
Most leave university at 21, in England anyway, don’t see why reduced prices should apply to U25 s . That would be my son 24 he’s working, single, no responsibilities and has more spare cash than his older sister and her friends starting families getting mortgages. He attends when he wants but reduced pricing wouldn’t make him attend more.
 

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