Priced out?

[SWPISHOME]

Trust me mate tourists aren't to blame for the atmosphere.

It's both.

Regular goers aren't getting involved either, They are waiting to be entertained.

Tourists aren't going the games to get chants going, They are at games to get videos, photos, likes on Facebook.

 

[mexico1970]

Just enjoy it ffs.

Enjoy fucking what?

You need to change your username from pride in battle to reach down and touch your chuffing toes.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I have never played a super fan/club apologist and hated the way the club has gone which was demonstrable since 1969 when those with all the full token sheets couldn't get FAC final tickets, but if they paid a fortune they could get a train and ticket deal. I have got shit on here for criticising the club for 20 years but I have always stuck up for fans over the club. Who else has been so anti the way club is run until it became popular in the last few months?

I believe the club deserves the shit kicking out of it right now and don't understand why this is an issue supporter from an engagement perspective, or why if they are fans that do are attacked?

You’ve gone off at a tangent Corky. You play the role of super fan on here (Exhibit A above) that has nothing to do with club apologists. I’ve never noticed your opinion of the club. No wonder you are getting carried away with your criticisms of other posters.

Hopefully, you pass Mexico’s “tourist test”

 

[Tim of the Oak]

He likened us to Disneyland and stated it isn't important that a boy buys a shirt in Manchester but what a boy buys in China and the US.

Explaining that away isn't as easy as saying "Well that's just the way it is".

You’ve posted a video where Soriano emphasises that organistions need to look after their people,
Including staff and the equivalent of fans. This is no smoking gun Mexico.

If I had a criticism watching that video. Reading between the lines, I sense that fan engagement isn’t high enough up Ferran’s priorities and is led by more junior Directors.

 

[CoventryBlue]

My MO is telling the truth, but it upsets the Walter Mitty types. Respected posters? They need to make an effort themselves, rather than complain about other fans saying "it looks bad on the telly".

I remember Cheeseman and Parker slagging of the atmosphere after a game, but neither opening their mouths normally during one.

One of them opens it for Bulgarian lukanka, match ticket thrown in

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It's pretty obvious isn't it? Maybe if your attention span allows it watch the video and come to your own conclusion about how City fans and football fans in general are being sold down the river just for profit.

If you don't agree just say so and we can agree to disagree, it's not fucking hard.

Have you posted the wrong video?

 

[CoventryBlue]

You’ve posted a video where Soriano emphasises that organistions need to look after their people,
Including staff and the equivalent of fans. This is no smoking gun Mexico.

11 years old too

 

[mexico1970]

You’ve posted a video where Soriano emphasises that organistions need to look after their people,
Including staff and the equivalent of fans. This is no smoking gun Mexico.

If you watched that and came out with that conclusion then there really isn't any hope for you, his mission is stated by him.

You want or agree with our journey into the international market where local fans are irrelevant but many if not most blues do not agree at all.

12 minutes in he mentions where he wants us to be, he can fuck off :)

 

[mexico1970]

11 years old too

But that is actually happening now, it's not WHEN he said it it's that he is now making that intention happen.

 

[CoventryBlue]

But that is actually happening now, it's not WHEN he said it it's that he is now making that intention happen.

Yeah to be fair mate, your comments are about the wider message, in another thread it's being taken like it happened last week so I'm probably reacting to that

 

[Tim of the Oak]

If you watched that and came out with that conclusion then there really isn't any hope for you, his mission is stated by him.

You want or agree with our journey into the international market where local fans are irrelevant but many if not most blues do not agree at all.

12 minutes in he mentions where he wants us to be, he can fuck off :)

Keep your hair on! The video is nothing to do with local fans being irrelevant. As I posted a bit ago, you can read between the lines and deduce fan engagement should be a higher priority but besides that I’ve got no problem wanting to be one of the biggest clubs in world football.

You’ve ignored a bigger issue that players wages are pricing out some of our fans:

 

[mexico1970]

Keep your hair on! The video is nothing to do with local fans being irrelevant. As I posted a bit ago, you can read between the lines and deduce fan engagement should be a higher priority but besides that I’ve got no problem wanting to be one of the biggest clubs in world football.

You’ve ignored a bigger issue that players wages are pricing out some of our fans:

My point is his intention and that intention is clear, you seem to agree with it and we'll agree to disagree. I don't care if the market is bigger in China and the US my concern is for local fans and keeping the club in the community.

Let me state that I don't want to be like the rags or Real Madrid, fortunately there appears to be some sort of kick back against this obviously much to the chagrin of the people who acquiesce to the clubs wishes and aims.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

My point is his intention and that intention is clear, you seem to agree with it and we'll agree to disagree. I don't care if the market is bigger in China and the US my concern is for local fans and keeping the club in the community.

Let me state that I don't want to be like the rags or Real Madrid, fortunately there appears to be some sort of kick back against this obviously much to the chagrin of the people who acquiesce to the clubs wishes and aims.

As Dante reminded us on Ian Chesseman’s podcast, a Local and Global fan engagement strategy shouldn’t be beyond the wit of our brightest and best.

 

[halfcenturyup]

He likened us to Disneyland and stated it isn't important that a boy buys a shirt in Manchester but what a boy buys in China and the US.

Explaining that away isn't as easy as saying "Well that's just the way it is".

It's no secret on here that I think Soriano is full of shit. He is a consultant, of course he is. Having said that, I don't doubt the wider gist of his presentation because that isn't revolutionary, it is just business sense.

But he is currently making one big mistake as far as I am concerned. I had a quick skim read of his book and it was certainly interesting but, for me, he made two points which struck me as relevant.

First, that Barcelona benefits from a nationalistic sense of pride in having a successful football club. For obvious reasons. Second, that football executives have to understand the "pitch" on which they are playing.

You will see where I am going with this. Manchester City isn't Barcelona. Manchester isn't Barcelona. The North West of England isn't Barcelona. At the end of the day, football fans in England arent the same as football fans in Spain. The "pitch" isn't the same. And he will be finding that out pretty soon, I expect.

My old boss used to tell me that it takes many generations to build up a successful brand, but only one generation to destroy it. Soriano is hugely underestimating the importance of a strong, local fanbase to the English football "pitch", and he may well be that one generation as far as City's fanbase is concerned.

 

[Matt Diablo]

622 seats going for £30 in SS3. Usually away seats v Leicester.. If these don't sell I dread to think what the ground will look like on matchday. Wake up City. You have driven away lots of local fans.

I'm going on my own so we will be right

 

[BringBackSwales]

Never liked this fucker Sorriano. Khaldoon has always at least tried to engage with the fans, or at least pretended to, Pep always has valued the fans, Txikki has always seemed ok, but not this fucker. Probably none more than any yo commercially and financially grow the club, but also done more than anyone to kill the club most of us know

 

[Tbilisi]

Great words from Big Ste, apologies if posted elsewhere.

 

[mayo31]

It's no secret on here that I think Soriano is full of shit. He is a consultant, of course he is. Having said that, I don't doubt the wider gist of his presentation because that isn't revolutionary, it is just business sense.

But he is currently making one big mistake as far as I am concerned. I had a quick skim read of his book and it was certainly interesting but, for me, he made two points which struck me as relevant.

First, that Barcelona benefits from a nationalistic sense of pride in having a successful football club. For obvious reasons. Second, that football executives have to understand the "pitch" on which they are playing.

You will see where I am going with this. Manchester City isn't Barcelona. Manchester isn't Barcelona. The North West of England isn't Barcelona. At the end of the day, football fans in England arent the same as football fans in Spain. The "pitch" isn't the same. And he will be finding that out pretty soon, I expect.

My old boss used to tell me that it takes many generations to build up a successful brand, but only one generation to destroy it. Soriano is hugely underestimating the importance of a strong, local fanbase to the English football "pitch", and he may well be that one generation as far as City's fanbase is concerned.

He would do well at Liverpool

 

[BridgyDids]

To be honest, I’ve not been to the ground this season or last.

I have a young family now, and I could probably afford it, but I don’t want to commit the money and time I could spend on them to watch something by myself (lad is too young to appreciate it and wife doesn’t like football), as a lot of my mates are in a similar position.

I may come back to it, when they get older - but based purely on what his interests are, but for now it’s not on my agenda.

 

[East Level 2]

Keep your hair on! The video is nothing to do with local fans being irrelevant. As I posted a bit ago, you can read between the lines and deduce fan engagement should be a higher priority but besides that I’ve got no problem wanting to be one of the biggest clubs in world football.

You’ve ignored a bigger issue that players wages are pricing out some of our fans:

Being fined a couple of million for repeatedly getting back late after half-time hasn't helped, nor has chucking £60 million at agents.