Protein shakes

[Chrisja1000]

Can anyone recommend a decent gainer, I'm on mutant mass at the moment and making really decent gains. The downside is I'm putting some serious timber on my waist even after doing cardio. I'f not a protein shake any other ideas?

 

[BlueMooner87]

Maximuscle promax extreme

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Maximuscle promax extreme

If you can afford it, go with this ^

If you want something more reasonably priced go with myprotein. Get your order in soon cos prices are about to go up because the raw materials are becoming more costly

 

[Chris@Mcfc]

Reflex instant mass all day for me..

Really good carbs in this.

Do a search and look at the nutrition information on this.

The problem with most mass gainers are the carbs are bad and mosly come
from sugars. The Reflex one doesn't.

Do you use a standard whey also? If so what you using?

As for the maximuscle. That's quite good. Really over priced though..

 

[ono]

Can anyone recommend a decent gainer, I'm on mutant mass at the moment and making really decent gains. The downside is I'm putting some serious timber on my waist even after doing cardio. I'f not a protein shake any other ideas?

Mutant Mass contains 170g of Carbohydrates, 52g of Protein and 18g of fat per serving. That's nutritonal overload if taken in one serving.

If you're not already, split the serving up into 3 seperate servings and follow this example...

4pm Training

5pm: Shake 1

6:30pm : Shake 2

8:00pm : Shake 3


Obviously you'll have to adjust that to fit your own workout timetable.

The reason for the split is, at no point, can your body take onboard 52g of protein or 170g of carbohydrates in 1 serving, and put all the nutrients towards muscle recovery. Depending on your size, on average you'd be able to take in around 60-70g of carbohydrate and around 25-30g of protein, before you started adding to your waistline.

You can store somewhere in the region of 350g of carbohydrate in the form of muscle glycogen, an additional 90g in the liver and around 5g circulates in the blood.

Training depletes Muscle Glycogen quite intensely if the volume and intensity of exercise is high enough. So after training it's wise to replenish by consuming a lot of carbohydrates. However, consuming 170g is bad news. In simple terms there will be an overspill where the consumed carbohydrates will be removed from the bloodstream very quickly due to an insulin spike which is caused by your body being in a catabolic state (insulin is a hormone which carries nutrients into cells). When too much is consumed at once, insulin will tell the body to manufacture more fat cells to store the carbohydrate.

So it's wise to break down the serving size to more manageable amounts of around 60 - 70g, and consume them in 90 minute intervals. This way, you are making much better use of your supplement. Your body is replenishing glycogen stores at a steady rate and amino acids are being released into the amino acid pool at a steady rate, rather than all at once.

Edit: MYProtein is probably the best place to use for supps.

 

[GStar]

Personally wouldn't touch maximuscle with a bargepole, over priced, over marketed,

Reflex stuff always gets good reviews, the nutritional content is generally very good and the price is generally a few quid less than competitors.

Been looking at MyProtein recently, never used them, prices seem cheap, are they any good?

http://www.affordablesupplements.co.uk - is a good site.

if it's a gainer you want: http://www.affordablesupplements.co...Mass+4.5KG+-+FREE+Next+Day+Delivery..123.html

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Myprotein is fine. I used to get the Hurricane XS stuff when I trained, pretty much the same as Maxripoffs cyclone but a fraction of the price. I had some reflex stuff a while back as well, which was good stuff, but I'll always go with myprotein because pound for pound I think it's the best

 

[Chris@Mcfc]

I use myprotein sometimes for their impact whey. Tastes not great. You get used to it but does the job!

I'm currenty using Reflex instant whey, instant mass and their peptide fusion for overnight. Results have been good..

That mutant mass is insane if that's what is in one serving! I reckon I'd put a stone on a week if I took that stuff hahaa. I might recommend that to some of my stick insect friends!

 

[Chrisja1000]

Cheers lads , Some great tips on here.

I'm 5'11 and around 12 and a half stone. I've always been toned as I play so much sport but just want to bulk up maybe upto 14 stone without the fat arse and hips that Mutant mass is giving me at the mo.

I'm going to try the Reflex and give that a whirl for a month, do I need a Impact Whey with it and will that help do the job?

What's demoralising is the fact I go to the GYM 3 times a week and still do a bit of cardio working hard and then see a couple of lads I know downing a couple if Winstrol and getting bigger gains and less effort. Pisses me right off.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Cheers lads , Some great tips on here.

I'm 5'11 and around 12 and a half stone. I've always been toned as I play so much sport but just want to bulk up maybe upto 14 stone without the fat arse and hips that Mutant mass is giving me at the mo.

I'm going to try the Reflex and give that a whirl for a month, do I need a Impact Whey with it and will that help do the job?

What's demoralising is the fact I go to the GYM 3 times a week and still do a bit of cardio working hard and then see a couple of lads I know downing a couple if Winstrol and getting bigger gains and less effort. Pisses me right off.

Yea but in 5 years time you'll have hair and they won't mate ;-). Winny is notorious for being hard on the hairline. Fuck with their heads if you want - tell them that you can really see them losing it