Protest v Wolves

WNRH said:
What is the benefit though of introducing it? And why introduce it if you’re not going to enforce it?

They contradict themselves at the beginning by saying the 14 game game utilisation has worked this season.

And it has worked, my seat this year has been occupied for every game. The club have benefitted by earning more money from my seat when selling on the ticket exchange.

They aren’t introducing it to improve things. They are introducing it to make it harder for season ticket holders - who they despise - to continue being season ticket holders.

They don’t want 37,000 long standing fans playing £30 for a ticket against Liverpool or United, they want 37,000 people paying £71 like individuals have to pay next week v Villa plus the extra £100 in the concession stands and club shop.

It’s sly, sneaky and a massive FU to the fans once again. Everything that this club has become.
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Spot on. Things come up in life, working away being a common one. For many SC holders, it's a 50+ year relationship and when it's quite clear once you give it up, you won't be getting it back this rule is exactly there to remove SC holders.

Say someone works abroad for a couple of years, young people join the military for 4 years, there's nothing wrong with having a break and sharing/listing for a few seasons in what should be long term ownership of a SC.

Enforcing a 10 game, in-person ruling is there for one reason only as you say. It stinks
 
You could argue it's a move to combat a small number of touts who maybe run multiple tickets on fake names or dead people but it's taking a sledgehammer to that issue

At best, much like ticket points, draconian rule that affects far more people than the problem it's trying to solve. At worst, cynical way of reducing SC holders
 
Mcfc1.9.8.0 said:
I wouldn’t trust the club as far as I could throw them. There’s constantly bad stories on how fans are getting treated by stewards and the club just bans them and won’t listen
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Spot on. PB said earlier in the thread he had to jump through hoops to get the club to listen and act on anomalies with renewals. There's no way the club wants to or is equipped to manage nuance
 
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Mcfc1.9.8.0 said:
I don’t think it used to but they never gave the ticket back but now they are saying they are giving it back if it doesn’t sell so maybe it will count as a non attendance
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It is given back at the moment. I've had emails a few hours before kick off to say your ticket didn't sell on exchange so can still be used by season ticket holder or transferred.
 
I agree PB.

The club are finding any excuse to ban fans and to take away their season tickets. Every season ticket removed from a fan is turned into a match day ticket. That’s what it boils down to.

Not only that, the club refuses to engage with those fans. And if they do, it’s only on the clubs terms, and when the club decides to engage, which is usually you are banned, or you have to serve a ban until we allow you back. Emails are ignored. Money is still taken for season tickets that are no longer being used by the banned fans, etc. It’s a fucking disgrace, and a shit show, and it’s the club policy.

The club is rotten from the boardroom down.
 
jrb said:
I agree PB.

The club are finding any excuse to ban fans and to take away their season tickets. Every season ticket removed from a fan is turned into a match day ticket. That’s what it boils down to.

Not only that, the club refuses to engage with those fans. And if they do, it’s only on the clubs terms, and when the club decides to engage, which is usually you are banned, or you have to serve a ban until we allow you back. Emails are ignored. Money is still taken for season tickets that are no longer being used by the banned fans, etc. It’s a fucking disgrace, and a shit show, and it’s the club policy.

The club is rotten from the boardroom down.
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Deserves two likes. If anything the action needs ramping up now. The club have shown themselves to be masters of manipulation today as some have fell for the "wins" whilst overlooking the bigger picture.

Took me a few hours to re-read and let it sink in mind you so no blame there, but hopefully tomorrow people get on board and see this for what it is.

At the time of the first protest, you could say the club had been sleeping at the wheel a bit, with this announcement they've actually put some thought and effort into telling us it's raining whilst pissing up our leg. It's sinister
 
WNRH said:
What is the benefit though of introducing it? And why introduce it if you’re not going to enforce it?

They contradict themselves at the beginning by saying the 14 game game utilisation has worked this season.

And it has worked, my seat this year has been occupied for every game. The club have benefitted by earning more money from my seat when selling on the ticket exchange.

They aren’t introducing it to improve things. They are introducing it to make it harder for season ticket holders - who they despise - to continue being season ticket holders.

They don’t want 37,000 long standing fans playing £30 for a ticket against Liverpool or United, they want 37,000 people paying £71 like individuals have to pay next week v Villa plus the extra £100 in the concession stands and club shop.

It’s sly, sneaky and a massive FU to the fans once again. Everything that this club has become.
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Well if you believe the statement, just the threat of it has helped increase attendance since they introduced the 14 game policy.

I’m sure there must be plenty who’ve fallen foul of it but I’ve not heard of a single person, either in real life or on here, who’ve had a renewal refused.

I’m not saying it won’t happen in the future but I’m cautiously confident that the club will take into account people’s personal circumstances before they steam in.
 
CoventryBlue said:
Deserves two likes. If anything the action needs ramping up now. The club have shown themselves to be masters of manipulation today as some have fell for the "wins" whilst overlooking the bigger picture.

Took me a few hours to re-read and let it sink in mind you so no blame there, but hopefully tomorrow people get on board and see this for what it is.

At the time of the first protest, you could say the club had been sleeping at the wheel a bit, with this announcement they've actually put some thought and effort into telling us it's raining whilst pissing up our leg. It's sinister
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The club are giving with one hand, and still taking away with two bands.

No mention of match day ticket prices.
No new season tickets.
Flexi-Gold and the scam charges still remain.
And there’s one more, which isn’t coming to mind atm.
 
Stephen230 said:
Well if you believe the statement, just the threat of it has helped increase attendance since they introduced the 14 game policy.

I’m sure there must be plenty who’ve fallen foul of it but I’ve not heard of a single person, either in real life or on here, who’ve had a renewal refused.

I’m not saying it won’t happen in the future but I’m cautiously confident that the club will take into account people’s personal circumstances before they steam in.
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14 game policy (now 16) is not the same thing as this 10 game policy though. One clearly does and has helped promote the seat not being empty, the other does no such thing
 
City’s 10 game attend in person policy seems to impact on more people than City Matters reps thought it would, based on some of the posts I’ve received in recent weeks.

If you’ve got a season card you really should be able to attend half the games in person. If those struggling find a work around, then good luck to them.

What seems to have disappeared from the thread is the previous interest in helping local families get tickets together. Hopefully, this will be addressed with the expanded stand etc.
 
jrb said:
I agree PB.

The club are finding any excuse to ban fans and to take away their season tickets. Every season ticket removed from a fan is turned into a match day ticket. That’s what it boils down to.

Not only that, the club refuses to engage with those fans. And if they do, it’s only on the clubs terms, and when the club decides to engage, which is usually you are banned, or you have to serve a ban until we allow you back. Emails are ignored. Money is still taken for season tickets that are no longer being used by the banned fans, etc. It’s a fucking disgrace, and a shit show, and it’s the club policy.

The club is rotten from the boardroom down.
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And if you cancel your direct debit it’s like giving up your season ticket you’ll never get it back

The whole arse is going to fall out of this someday. We have had one bad season and you can see the sluggish ticket sales. Imagine if we have a couple of bad seasons. The club need to realise we haven’t got a core fan base like Liverpool or United. all these tourists fans will drop us as quick as they picked us up as soon as results go belly up.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
City’s 10 game attend in person policy seems to impact on more people than City Matters reps thought it would, based on some of the posts I’ve received in recent weeks.

If you’ve got a season card you really should be able to attend half the games in person. If those struggling find a work around, then good luck to them.

What seems to have disappeared from the thread is the previous interest in helping local families get tickets together. Hopefully, this will be addressed with the expanded stand etc.
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Families are not for profit, Tim.
 
Just to add that the constant criticisms of flexi-golds (and maybe they should have been removed for next season) is undermined if full season card holders can’t make half the games:
 
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