Proving a point to a deluded rag...

Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
2. Ryan Giggs brought down by Sol Campbell at Highbury no penalty as Arsenal go the season unbeaten.
3. Didier Drogba about 5 yards offside to score the winner for Chelsea as they go on to win league in 2010.
4. Ashley Young wrongly disallowed goal at the Etihad, thankfully it didn't cost us.
5. Rio Ferdinand completely legitimate tackle on Ben Arfa gets Newcastle a penalty and a point at Old Trafford in 2011.
6. Jamie Carragher tries to decapitate Nani at Anfield in 2011, no red card, United lose 3-1.
7. Robin van Persie wrongly disallowed goal against Reading earlier this season.
8. Varane clear foul/red card on Evra in 1st leg of Last 16 tie Vs Real Madrid, not given.
9. Steven gerrard sent off in pre season for Liverpool in 2003 NO DOMESTIC BAN. Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney sent off in pre season for United in 2006..... both handed THREE MATCH DOMESTIC BANS.
10. Sylvain Distin barges into Ronaldo in 2008 FA Cup QF, no penalty, Portsmouth win the game.
11. Chelsea goal at Stamford Bridge in 2010 scored from a non existant free kick. Chelsea win title.
12. Jonathan Woodgate clear foul/red card on Javier Hernandez at Stoke last season. Stoke get 1-1 draw.
13. Liverpool given penalty in 1999 2-2 draw at Anfield, despite Blomqvist clearly taking the ball.
14. Lee Bowyer last minute goal for Birnmingham against United in 2010 to earn a 1-1 draw, goal was offside and handball.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point, I'm not going to sit here and say we haven't had some shocking calls in our favour down the years but there's been a shit load against us too but for obvious reasons everyone but United fans forgets these decisions against us. Of course can't expect city fans to be rational when it comes to United, that's just how it goes. But when it's trying to be portrayed as fact as it is in this thread someone has to say something.
I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

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Musetobegood said:
Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
2. Ryan Giggs brought down by Sol Campbell at Highbury no penalty as Arsenal go the season unbeaten.
3. Didier Drogba about 5 yards offside to score the winner for Chelsea as they go on to win league in 2010.
4. Ashley Young wrongly disallowed goal at the Etihad, thankfully it didn't cost us.
5. Rio Ferdinand completely legitimate tackle on Ben Arfa gets Newcastle a penalty and a point at Old Trafford in 2011.
6. Jamie Carragher tries to decapitate Nani at Anfield in 2011, no red card, United lose 3-1.
7. Robin van Persie wrongly disallowed goal against Reading earlier this season.
8. Varane clear foul/red card on Evra in 1st leg of Last 16 tie Vs Real Madrid, not given.
9. Steven gerrard sent off in pre season for Liverpool in 2003 NO DOMESTIC BAN. Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney sent off in pre season for United in 2006..... both handed THREE MATCH DOMESTIC BANS.
10. Sylvain Distin barges into Ronaldo in 2008 FA Cup QF, no penalty, Portsmouth win the game.
11. Chelsea goal at Stamford Bridge in 2010 scored from a non existant free kick. Chelsea win title.
12. Jonathan Woodgate clear foul/red card on Javier Hernandez at Stoke last season. Stoke get 1-1 draw.
13. Liverpool given penalty in 1999 2-2 draw at Anfield, despite Blomqvist clearly taking the ball.
14. Lee Bowyer last minute goal for Birnmingham against United in 2010 to earn a 1-1 draw, goal was offside and handball.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point, I'm not going to sit here and say we haven't had some shocking calls in our favour down the years but there's been a shit load against us too but for obvious reasons everyone but United fans forgets these decisions against us. Of course can't expect city fans to be rational when it comes to United, that's just how it goes. But when it's trying to be portrayed as fact as it is in this thread someone has to say something.
I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

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Yeah but we should have had a penalty, evened out immediately.
You named 15 decisions that went against you over many years. We could probably find 15 things that went for you just this season.
By a large, you lot get away with a lot more than anyone else. There is no denying that.
 
Musetobegood said:
Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
2. Ryan Giggs brought down by Sol Campbell at Highbury no penalty as Arsenal go the season unbeaten.
3. Didier Drogba about 5 yards offside to score the winner for Chelsea as they go on to win league in 2010.
4. Ashley Young wrongly disallowed goal at the Etihad, thankfully it didn't cost us.
5. Rio Ferdinand completely legitimate tackle on Ben Arfa gets Newcastle a penalty and a point at Old Trafford in 2011.
6. Jamie Carragher tries to decapitate Nani at Anfield in 2011, no red card, United lose 3-1.
7. Robin van Persie wrongly disallowed goal against Reading earlier this season.
8. Varane clear foul/red card on Evra in 1st leg of Last 16 tie Vs Real Madrid, not given.
9. Steven gerrard sent off in pre season for Liverpool in 2003 NO DOMESTIC BAN. Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney sent off in pre season for United in 2006..... both handed THREE MATCH DOMESTIC BANS.
10. Sylvain Distin barges into Ronaldo in 2008 FA Cup QF, no penalty, Portsmouth win the game.
11. Chelsea goal at Stamford Bridge in 2010 scored from a non existant free kick. Chelsea win title.
12. Jonathan Woodgate clear foul/red card on Javier Hernandez at Stoke last season. Stoke get 1-1 draw.
13. Liverpool given penalty in 1999 2-2 draw at Anfield, despite Blomqvist clearly taking the ball.
14. Lee Bowyer last minute goal for Birnmingham against United in 2010 to earn a 1-1 draw, goal was offside and handball.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point, I'm not going to sit here and say we haven't had some shocking calls in our favour down the years but there's been a shit load against us too but for obvious reasons everyone but United fans forgets these decisions against us. Of course can't expect city fans to be rational when it comes to United, that's just how it goes. But when it's trying to be portrayed as fact as it is in this thread someone has to say something.
I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/lfc-vs-man-utd-20-year-refereeing.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/lf ... eeing.html</a>

If I could be arsed I'd rebuke every single point with at least two similar gone in your favour in the last couple of years. You're the Juve of England, and one day it will come out, like it did with them.
 
chris_m said:
Musetobegood said:
Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
2. Ryan Giggs brought down by Sol Campbell at Highbury no penalty as Arsenal go the season unbeaten.
3. Didier Drogba about 5 yards offside to score the winner for Chelsea as they go on to win league in 2010.
4. Ashley Young wrongly disallowed goal at the Etihad, thankfully it didn't cost us.
5. Rio Ferdinand completely legitimate tackle on Ben Arfa gets Newcastle a penalty and a point at Old Trafford in 2011.
6. Jamie Carragher tries to decapitate Nani at Anfield in 2011, no red card, United lose 3-1.
7. Robin van Persie wrongly disallowed goal against Reading earlier this season.
8. Varane clear foul/red card on Evra in 1st leg of Last 16 tie Vs Real Madrid, not given.
9. Steven gerrard sent off in pre season for Liverpool in 2003 NO DOMESTIC BAN. Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney sent off in pre season for United in 2006..... both handed THREE MATCH DOMESTIC BANS.
10. Sylvain Distin barges into Ronaldo in 2008 FA Cup QF, no penalty, Portsmouth win the game.
11. Chelsea goal at Stamford Bridge in 2010 scored from a non existant free kick. Chelsea win title.
12. Jonathan Woodgate clear foul/red card on Javier Hernandez at Stoke last season. Stoke get 1-1 draw.
13. Liverpool given penalty in 1999 2-2 draw at Anfield, despite Blomqvist clearly taking the ball.
14. Lee Bowyer last minute goal for Birnmingham against United in 2010 to earn a 1-1 draw, goal was offside and handball.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point, I'm not going to sit here and say we haven't had some shocking calls in our favour down the years but there's been a shit load against us too but for obvious reasons everyone but United fans forgets these decisions against us. Of course can't expect city fans to be rational when it comes to United, that's just how it goes. But when it's trying to be portrayed as fact as it is in this thread someone has to say something.
I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/lfc-vs-man-utd-20-year-refereeing.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/lf ... eeing.html</a>

If I could be arsed I'd rebuke every single point with at least two similar gone in your favour in the last couple of years. You're the Juve of England, and one day it will come out, like it did with them.

They are the leagues cash cow and until they arent so, things will never change, unless European refs come into our game. The old pisscan hasn't courted them enough. Either that or they see straight through the senile old f#cker. It must of took a good hour or so to compile that list. I could do one of decisions in uniteds favour within 10 mins. I would put a million pound on it that in that period of decisions against manure you have listed it will be outnumbered 5/1 of decisions that went your way. And thats being generous.
 
Musetobegood said:
Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
.
.
.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point,

I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

Hey you raggy little cnut! How about a 4 point swing in one day based solely on Ref decisions? The offside decision was impossible for the linesman to see 100% and there's no telling if the goal would have been prevented if the linesman left his flag down and Hart responded in kind. As I write this, I'm recalling Vidic shoving over an opponent that should have been a penalty today, and then our penalty (blatant handball) was disallowed. Both decisions were clearly visible from the stands and TV cameras, but the refs gave both game-changing decisions to United.

But after coming up with a paltry 15 incidents spanning a decade, I'm sure you'd ignore me citing 15 game changing decisions in favor of United in the past calendar year? How about the miracle that is United not getting a single red card in 18 months in any domestic competition? Yet, earlier this year in the Capital One Cup match against Chelsea your youth twat Wooten was on a yellow card and made about 4 bookable tackles afterwards. Even Martin Tyler was saying he should have been sent off a few fouls prior. One of the fouls he committed while on a yellow was shoulder charging Ramirez in the box. ANY OTHER TEAM WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN TO 10 MEN 30 MINUTES PRIOR... Wooten never saw red. This was literally a few days after Jonny Evans caught Torres with his studs AND TORRES WAS SENT OFF, YOU DELUDED FUCKING TWAT.

Your deluding rag mind cites the above article, the very same one that doesn't mention things like Refs calling red cards on Ashley Young's dive against QPR, which altered the game significantly, or the two penalty dives deemed as fouls by Howard Webb at Chelsea.

Lets not get started on two players sent off at Stamford Bridge (both falsely, one should have been a card for the United defender), one against Arsenal (mere minutes after a foul was forgiven for an already-booked United player), and the sending off at Liverpool when both players should have walked. Oh, almost forgot the multiple debatable penalties against your opponents in those fixtures as well. Oh and almost forgot the 2-yard offside Goal Chicharito scored after the Liverpool player was wrongly sent off. ALL IN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS SEASON

How about 5 minutes of stoppage time for no reason, and the ref allowing play to go on for seven minutes... FOR NO REASON. But its no wonder because "United get more stoppage time when they need it". AKA cheating cnuts. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ppage-time</a>

There you go. An actual real quantifiable metric that isn't open to rag interpretation like the articles you cited. Imagine that: it shows a rag advantage.

The only deluded fucks that see your post as anything but warped and nonsensical are fellow glory hunting rags. Open your fucking eyes you blind twat.
 
Dethred said:
Musetobegood said:
Classic selective memory syndrome..

Now let's run through decisions against United.

1. Paul Scholes wrongly disallowed goal against Porto in the 2004 CL QF 2nd leg.
.
.
.
15. Carling Cup Semi Final first leg, Manchester City(yes you guys) awarded a penalty for a foul outside the box.

I could go on but I think I've made my point,

I speak as Everton have a wrongly disallowed goal against City at Goodison but I'm sure that'll be ignored.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9258810/Manchester-United-have-cause-for-complaint-as-unique-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... rrors.html</a>

Hey you raggy little cnut! How about a 4 point swing in one day based solely on Ref decisions? The offside decision was impossible for the linesman to see 100% and there's no telling if the goal would have been prevented if the linesman left his flag down and Hart responded in kind. As I write this, I'm recalling Vidic shoving over an opponent that should have been a penalty today, and then our penalty (blatant handball) was disallowed. Both decisions were clearly visible from the stands and TV cameras, but the refs gave both game-changing decisions to United.

But after coming up with a paltry 15 incidents spanning a decade, I'm sure you'd ignore me citing 15 game changing decisions in favor of United in the past calendar year? How about the miracle that is United not getting a single red card in 18 months in any domestic competition? Yet, earlier this year in the Capital One Cup match against Chelsea your youth twat Wooten was on a yellow card and made about 4 bookable tackles afterwards. Even Martin Tyler was saying he should have been sent off a few fouls prior. One of the fouls he committed while on a yellow was shoulder charging Ramirez in the box. ANY OTHER TEAM WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN TO 10 MEN 30 MINUTES PRIOR... Wooten never saw red. This was literally a few days after Jonny Evans caught Torres with his studs AND TORRES WAS SENT OFF, YOU DELUDED FUCKING TWAT.

Your deluding rag mind cites the above article, the very same one that doesn't mention things like Refs calling red cards on Ashley Young's dive against QPR, which altered the game significantly, or the two penalty dives deemed as fouls by Howard Webb at Chelsea.

Lets not get started on two players sent off at Stamford Bridge (both falsely, one should have been a card for the United defender), one against Arsenal (mere minutes after a foul was forgiven for an already-booked United player), and the sending off at Liverpool when both players should have walked. Oh, almost forgot the multiple debatable penalties against your opponents in those fixtures as well. Oh and almost forgot the 2-yard offside Goal Chicharito scored after the Liverpool player was wrongly sent off. ALL IN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS SEASON

How about 5 minutes of stoppage time for no reason, and the ref allowing play to go on for seven minutes... FOR NO REASON. But its no wonder because "United get more stoppage time when they need it". AKA cheating cnuts. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ppage-time</a>

There you go. An actual real quantifiable metric that isn't open to rag interpretation like the articles you cited. Imagine that: it shows a rag advantage.

The only deluded fucks that see your post as anything but warped and nonsensical are fellow glory hunting rags. Open your fucking eyes you blind twat.

Amen :). i think its safe to say that clown wont be coming back here again XD
 
And I just have to have the biggest laugh at #3 on that list, which is fucking hilarious. Its a favorite for rags since they don't have that many grievances to recount, even though they've now taken up the tactic of moaning about legitimate calls and calling them refereeing travesties (Nani kicking a player in the chest? Waaaaaaah, we were robbed even though Rafael didn't get penalized for slapping the fucking ball off the goal line in a manner Suarez would be jealous of).

Not to mention the goal scored at the Bernabeu was from a corner that should have been a goal kick! Question then: How does it feel to be so shit in Europe that in your first real challenge (at least your pathetic club made it through another piss-easy group this time), not a single one of your players can put the fucking ball in the net without direct ref assistance or a Madrid mistake???

Why is #3 so fucking funny, though? Because it proves just how fucking blind and stupid you fucks really are. Or did Macheda not score a goal in a motion that involved a blatant fucking handball? <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg</a>

Nah say it isn't so, you fucking idiot.
 
Expected responses, as I said I don't expect rationality but just putting all that out there was necessary, and as I clearly stated during that listing "I could go on" meaning there are plenty of other incidents.
I didn't say we don't get decisions, in fact I specify that we've had some shockers go our way too. There's no denial, there's no pretending. It's just fricking hilarious how whenever a bad decision goes against us it's swept under the rug.

Dethred, calm down you precious little thing. I think the fact you think Ivanovic shouldn't have been sent off at Stamford Bridge says it all about your profanity fueled rant. I'm not going to waste my time cutting it apart. You talk about Ashley Young diving for penalties, obviously you've forgotten a few of your penalties this season, in particular in a game against Villa.

And I have to laugh at that 'Shit in Europe' comment. I'm sure even your fellow fans would wince at such a comment.

Oh and almost forgot the 2-yard offside Goal Chicharito scored after the Liverpool player was wrongly sent off. ALL IN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS SEASON

Haha, you're even making things up too. Embarrassing.
 
Question. Did Ferdinand ever get any type of fine or ban for clapping in the ref's face after the Madrid match?
 

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