Quitting work on the spot

GoatersLeftShin said:
It sounds like you have mentally checked out of the job so I would spend time looking for something that you want to do and let that fucker talk to the wind

Also if the tone is as bad as you say, I would be tempted to raise it with HR. If the tone suggests he is drunk and on duty then it won't be seen in a good light and could be used as a constructive dismissal type of route.

I would also be tempted to pull him up on it and laugh at him. I would casually ask what he was doing at 11pm on a Saturday and ask him jokingly if he had been drinking, maybe do it in a meeting. Put the shame on him and maybe ask him about particularly things he said.

No one needs disrespecting at work. The ones who are all mouth just need a solid pasting, simple as that.

Good luck, hope it all works out.
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Cheers mate. I am 100% raising it with HR - but as others have said, I don’t think I have anything to gain by being a stick in the mud. I’m going to, in a professional way, state my opinion. Whether anything happens is another matter, given his station.

I think it’s a fine line whether what he’s said will be excused as just unprofessional or crossing a line into something worse. There was a lot of telling me about my supposedly “shit” and “measly” work, a stream of aggressive questioning - some targeting my team members (“what the fuck is X doing?”). And this on a non-work platform at that time of day. I’m not beyond criticism, but I would have been more than happy to have an adult conversation to educate him on why things were done the way they were - because all of his comments have easy responses. The way he does things I have no right of reply. His messages are a relentless conscious stream of thought with no filter.

I do worry about my team, they are a small unit and they know what he’s like and are aware I’ve been insulating them from the worst so they can focus on doing great work - and they are brilliant, diligent, hard workers. I can’t see any of them sticking around for long. For the people saying go on sick or go awol, I won’t do that because while I know I don’t owe my employer anything, I want to make sure I help the team either get prepared or find something new if they want to leave. I’m not going to leave them high and dry, and maybe that’s more fool me… but I can take being the fool on occasions.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Cheers mate. I am 100% raising it with HR - but as others have said, I don’t think I have anything to gain by being a stick in the mud. I’m going to, in a professional way, state my opinion. Whether anything happens is another matter, given his station.

I think it’s a fine line whether what he’s said will be excused as just unprofessional or crossing a line into something worse. There was a lot of telling me about my supposedly “shit” and “measly” work, a stream of aggressive questioning - some targeting my team members (“what the fuck is X doing?”). And this on a non-work platform at that time of day. I’m not beyond criticism, but I would have been more than happy to have an adult conversation to educate him on why things were done the way they were - because all of his comments have easy responses. The way he does things I have no right of reply. His messages are a relentless conscious stream of thought with no filter.

I do worry about my team, they are a small unit and they know what he’s like and are aware I’ve been insulating them from the worst so they can focus on doing great work - and they are brilliant, diligent, hard workers. I can’t see any of them sticking around for long. For the people saying go on sick or go awol, I won’t do that because while I know I don’t owe my employer anything, I want to make sure I help the team either get prepared or find something new if they want to leave. I’m not going to leave them high and dry, and maybe that’s more fool me… but I can take being the fool on occasions.
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Correct approach. Don't sink to his level. Be the grown-up.

Between now and leaving, do just enough to get by and if you can, spend your time on their clock job searching.

"Quiet quitting" they call it.
 
Coatigan said:
Sounds like you are well past the point of no turning back, one way or another. Just now a case of how you let it play out.

Handing in a notice without something lined up, following an action like his, shows very much a matter of principle. It is hardly debatable as to the reasons behind it. If your notice period allows you time to find something.

Coordinating an exit on your terms over a longer period, once you have found something else looks a bit more manipulative, but at the end of the day is more pragmatic and you have to look after yourself. It means putting up with it though, and accepting that. Leaves you to work out how if at all you respond to that letter.

Or as others say, make an issue of it, raise with HR, higher up etc. I personally think calling in sick on mental health grounds, while it is there as a real option, should only he used where really necessary. It is a serious thing.

You will know how strongly you feel about it all, but in many was he has done you a favour doing it on the Saturday, giving you time to think it over. Which you should take. How is it the old saying goes, the night brings good advice.
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Thank you, I agree with pretty much everything you say.

I have a 3 month notice period. I would say there’s a 50/50 chance I go on gardening leave anyway. Though they will be wary there’s a lot of key man dependency because of the lack of resources so I’m leaving a sizeable hole behind. After my 3 months I can probably afford another 2-3 months without working if I need it, my wife’s salary just about covers the bills but nothing more and it’s a lot of pressure on her to be the only earner so I wouldn’t want to be in that situation for long - I have discussed it with her and she understands my decision and says she’ll support whatever choice I make.

I think this gives me the comfort blanket needed to act on my principles.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I’ve been weighing up leaving my job for some time. In short, the CEO is an egotist. Which would be fine… many of them are and I’ve dealt with worse… problem is he is my line manager. He completely ignores me 99% of the time but when he’s got a bee in his bonnet about something the other 1% of the time he will be a totally unbearable shit.

The big issue is that that 99% of the time he ignores me is when I need things to do my role e.g., people in my team, budget, sign-off on work. It makes it impossible to functionally do a good job. Which makes it all the more galling when he pulls me up on something I’ve been asking about for months.

The final straw was last night when he sent me a long rant at 11pm on a Saturday. A long rant in which he was unhappy with something I’d done. I take huge issue with some of his reasoning about this particular thing - but his tone was deeply unpleasant and it seemed like he was honestly a bit drunk.

I’ve drafted up my resignation letter, I won’t be disrespected. I’m going to send it tomorrow as a nice early Christmas present. I don’t have anything lined up though so hold a place in the queue for me at the soup kitchen. People might advise me to wait until I have something new but I’m not waiting because I have a long notice period plus it is impacting my mental health tossing and turning at night… not to mention the principle of it.

Has anybody else taken a leap of faith and quit on the spot? Any creative suggestions for serving my notice? (Before anybody suggests it, I’m not shitting anywhere)
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We don’t have the same CEO do we haha
 
I wish I could walk. My workplace is toxic, it’s killing me and my mental health but I live in a part of the country where jobs are scarce and I need to earn what I do to take care of my family. 44 hours a week trapped in what feels like a black hole.

Best of luck to the OP, do what feels right and what makes you happy.
 
callumcity said:
We don’t have the same CEO do we haha
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I think there must be a factory of them somewhere.

They get where they are through stamping on others. I always told myself no matter how senior I get I’ll never compromise on my number one principle which is simply to be nice to people. I’ve managed to do okay despite that competitive disadvantage - I’ll never argue or shout, I’ll never send aggressive emails, I’ll never talk down to people and I’ll certainly never presume I know everything. Life is too short and it’s a job, it’s not like it’s something important… like City…
 
If I had sufficient funds and felt I was employable elsewhere then I’d give my notice and go. I’d then spend as much work time as possible looking for another job.

It all depends on your own personal circumstances but it seems the right thing to do here if you can support yourself financially.

Too many high up employees should not be people managing.
 
blueinsa said:
I wish I could walk. My workplace is toxic, it’s killing me and my mental health but I live in a part of the country where jobs are scarce and I need to earn what I do to take care of my family. 44 hours a week trapped in what feels like a black hole.

Best of luck to the OP, do what feels right and what makes you happy.
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Sorry to hear that mate, I realise I’m in a privileged position to pick and choose and not everybody has that luxury.

I won’t offer any glib advice without knowing your situation but in my experience life has a way of bringing you new opportunities and changes when you least expect it so you never know what’s coming down the pipe.

Thanks - and best of luck to you too
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I’ve been weighing up leaving my job for some time. In short, the CEO is an egotist. Which would be fine… many of them are and I’ve dealt with worse… problem is he is my line manager. He completely ignores me 99% of the time but when he’s got a bee in his bonnet about something the other 1% of the time he will be a totally unbearable shit.

The big issue is that that 99% of the time he ignores me is when I need things to do my role e.g., people in my team, budget, sign-off on work. It makes it impossible to functionally do a good job. Which makes it all the more galling when he pulls me up on something I’ve been asking about for months.

The final straw was last night when he sent me a long rant at 11pm on a Saturday. A long rant in which he was unhappy with something I’d done. I take huge issue with some of his reasoning about this particular thing - but his tone was deeply unpleasant and it seemed like he was honestly a bit drunk.

I’ve drafted up my resignation letter, I won’t be disrespected. I’m going to send it tomorrow as a nice early Christmas present. I don’t have anything lined up though so hold a place in the queue for me at the soup kitchen. People might advise me to wait until I have something new but I’m not waiting because I have a long notice period plus it is impacting my mental health tossing and turning at night… not to mention the principle of it.

Has anybody else taken a leap of faith and quit on the spot? Any creative suggestions for serving my notice? (Before anybody suggests it, I’m not shitting anywhere)
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Sounds to me you have a case for constructive dismissal.

If you've been ignored and you have proof when he claims your ideas as your own as well as sending you msgs outside of work hours, that's basically harassment.

Talk to HR, go on the sick over it as you look for something else, take him to court citing your issues over mental health.

Get something out of it.
 
AtAll the suggestions that have been put are the best ways to go especially getting a note for stress , I did exactly the same thing in 2009, with one additional thing, I took out a grievance sighting the unreasonable behaviour of my immediate line manager, I never set foot in the place again, I was paid fully for the next two years and bonuses paid also, and finally they paid me off with a lump sum. My immediate manager was shown the door also after I was paid off. I ended up having the last laugh.
 
I’m not working at present but I have an interview tomorrow for a job I didn’t even apply for. They found me on Totaljobs and rang me!

As a former Court Clerk made redundant during civil service cutbacks, I’d dealt with this legal firm regularly and they’re established.

One opportunity is often all it takes.
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
It's a tricky one blue.

After 12 years working at the same firm at the airport, the Christmas roster came out and they had me in Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New year's eve and New years day.
They knew full well I had two young children and I wanted some time with my family.
I stood up in front of the crew room and declared to around forty people, that I would not set foot in the place again.
A couple of pricks heckled me with shite such as "see you on Christmas day".

I went home, rung the quacks and got a sick note. Never set foot in the place again.

I'm glad how I handled it but I didn't give my self anywhere else to go after I had declared that.

Get on the sick and find a new job. Let that arsehole find someone else to sort their shite out.
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Well done for showing balls. Typical Stockholm syndrome merchants with the heckles. It's coworkers like that who create shit working environments that weak bosses feed off.
 
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SkyBlueFlux said:
Cheers mate. I am 100% raising it with HR - but as others have said, I don’t think I have anything to gain by being a stick in the mud. I’m going to, in a professional way, state my opinion. Whether anything happens is another matter, given his station.

I think it’s a fine line whether what he’s said will be excused as just unprofessional or crossing a line into something worse. There was a lot of telling me about my supposedly “shit” and “measly” work, a stream of aggressive questioning - some targeting my team members (“what the fuck is X doing?”). And this on a non-work platform at that time of day. I’m not beyond criticism, but I would have been more than happy to have an adult conversation to educate him on why things were done the way they were - because all of his comments have easy responses. The way he does things I have no right of reply. His messages are a relentless conscious stream of thought with no filter.

I do worry about my team, they are a small unit and they know what he’s like and are aware I’ve been insulating them from the worst so they can focus on doing great work - and they are brilliant, diligent, hard workers. I can’t see any of them sticking around for long. For the people saying go on sick or go awol, I won’t do that because while I know I don’t owe my employer anything, I want to make sure I help the team either get prepared or find something new if they want to leave. I’m not going to leave them high and dry, and maybe that’s more fool me… but I can take being the fool on occasions.
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Love the attitude in the bottom paragraph. You sound like a good man. However, take a step back and think if others would do the same for you. The likelihood is no, and you would be replaced before your body went cold. Look after yourself and your family first, fuck the consequences and other colleagues; they're just people you're forced to spend a lot of time with.
 
dooie68 said:
AtAll the suggestions that have been put are the best ways to go especially getting a note for stress , I did exactly the same thing in 2009, with one additional thing, I took out a grievance sighting the unreasonable behaviour of my immediate line manager, I never set foot in the place again, I was paid fully for the next two years and bonuses paid also, and finally they paid me off with a lump sum. My immediate manager was shown the door also after I was paid off. I ended up having the last laugh.
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That sounds great, well played. The idea of 2 years off work paid sounds amazing, but I think that would actually feel like a noose around my neck during that period. I'd not be able to fully relax until I was free from the place.
 
Nebuchadnezzar said:
A Greek building site will be a minimum of 8 men chainsmoking all staring at a cordoned off hole, before deciding its lunchtime.
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That sounds about right. The only time they'd put their fag down is for another coffee or gyros break. From experience, the white collar workers in Greece are very much the same.
 
yeseye said:
Could have a case for constructive dismissal .
Acas is your friend.
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Not sure that’ll fly to be honest - I don’t think this is constructive dismissal - for that I’d have to prove I’m specifically being targeted. But there’s no way he wants me to leave, I’ve brought in a lot of business for him and he will absolutely try and counter-offer to keep me - his MO is to throw money at problems - but frankly he can double or triple my pay and I’d still leave.
 
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