Rag Debt in today's Times

Blue Train said:
charliebigspuds said:
I've said this before and I wish it wasn't true. But, if there is a mega rich Arab out there willing to by us then there will be a few falling over themselves to buy them, especially at a knock down "take on the debt" price.
I dread to think what would happen if them cnuts got our financial muscle. Contrary to what they say they have been buying the league for years by spending a lot of money, If they get mega rich we're all fcuked!!

We were bought for peanuts before the global credit crunch kicked in. And we were a club that could be easily built up and made great, thereby giving the new owner worldwide status and reflected glory. Minimal risk for maximum profit for Mansour.

Utd will cost a billion to buy, in a post-credit crunch climate so it's highly unlikely that anyone is willing to invest that money and then have to start spending big on top to really build the brand, which can't be made any bigger around the world. There is nothing in it for a new investor (apart from hoping to make a profit through re-sale - which is what the Glazers wanted them for - but the worldwide recession screwed it up for them). Maximum risk for minimal profit for anyone dumb enough to try it.

Their best days are well and truly behind them.

Tick tock.

There's something slightly wrong there?
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
We were bought for peanuts before the global credit crunch kicked in. And we were a club that could be easily built up and made great, thereby giving the new owner worldwide status and reflected glory. Minimal risk for maximum profit for Mansour.

Utd will cost a billion to buy, in a post-credit crunch climate so it's highly unlikely that anyone is willing to invest that money and then have to start spending big on top to really build the brand, which can't be made any bigger around the world. There is nothing in it for a new investor (apart from hoping to make a profit through re-sale - which is what the Glazers wanted them for - but the worldwide recession screwed it up for them). Maximum risk for minimal profit for anyone dumb enough to try it.

Their best days are well and truly behind them.

Tick tock.

There's something slightly wrong there?

No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.
 
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.
 
Sol Campbell, that tells you all you need to know about the rags debt.
 
bluebarn said:
What a great wind up it would be if at the LC Semi we have a new chant where we just stand there slowing repeating Tick Tock Tick Tock!
top idea! can just see it now every man woman and child on there feet chanting it

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!
 
mammutly said:
kiam06 said:
Sol Campbell, that tells you all you need to know about the rags debt.

Doesn't really tell you much except the transfer window is closed

Opens in three weeks! Sol Campbell is pure desperation if they were not skint they would have a top class defender lined up for then not a has been who couldn't handle Notts County.
 
kiam06 said:
mammutly said:
Doesn't really tell you much except the transfer window is closed

Opens in three weeks! Sol Campbell is pure desperation if they were not skint they would have a top class defender lined up for then not a has been who couldn't handle Notts County.
Sol Campbell still has something about him to attract Uniteds interest,Owen too, still a scorer of goals, But why they in for them?

hahahaa!


TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.

Even the very best business people in the world would think twice about gambling £1bn, I think our guy for all his wealth may shirk at gambling £1bn.
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.

Even the very best business people in the world would think twice about gambling £1bn, I think our guy for all his wealth may shirk at gambling £1bn.
 

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