Rag Debt in today's Times

bluevengence said:
smeeagain said:
i wouldnt get too excited about their downfall
if wealthy arabs bought man city basically as a plaything then i,m certain theres a similar nutter wanting them too

I SMELL A RAG

IF somebody came in to buy them they must have serious seriuos amounts of money, as the buyout will include buying the debt out, shame the Rag fans cant see that, that club aint worth the £1bn+ that would be required to aquire it.
 
smeeagain wrote:
i wouldnt get too excited about their downfall
if wealthy arabs bought man city basically as a plaything then i,m certain theres a similar nutter wanting them too


I SMELL A RAG


sonny i was probly stood onthe kippax years before you were born !!
dont be disrespectful ,
and explain please why you think i,m a rag ??




dickhead
 
smeeagain said:
smeeagain wrote:
i wouldnt get too excited about their downfall
if wealthy arabs bought man city basically as a plaything then i,m certain theres a similar nutter wanting them too


I SMELL A RAG


sonny i was probly stood onthe kippax years before you were born !!
dont be disrespectful ,
and explain please why you think i,m a rag ??




dickhead


Now you listen to me SUNSHINE....you call our owners nutters who brought city has a plaything for a start which if you were a city fan you would know is bollox.and looking through your posts there is a lot of negative ones...as for standing on the kippax before i was born .....i don`t fooking think so KNOBHEAD.
 
If you owned Manchester United, even with the current level of debt, you would could still break the British transfer record at least once a season every season if you really wanted to. The bottom line of £80 million profit pretty much guarantees that.

Also if the club went up for sale tomorrow, there would be a queue of potential buyers.

The rags will not be folding anytime soon. And you can be completely certain of that.
 
padgey said:
That's why they're getting Sol Campbell on a free. They had the nerve to dig us out about not getting Eto'o or Kaka when there transfer policy is to buy Owen and Campbell, weren't they Englands best players in France 98... What a joke !!

Not really wise mocking Owen when he scored a last min winner against us and got a hatrick last night.

Also i presume the only reason they're going for Sol is because they have 8 defenders out and he has no club.
 
The comments on MuEN by rags try to make it that now DUBAI is bust that ABU DHABI will sell us, shame that they cant see that if abu dhabi owned dubai's debt it woul only be 10% of there entire wealth, but they dont own dubais debt dubai do, and while im sure they got there hands a bit burnt, im thinking that the purse strings may not tighten just yet
 
shortagain said:
Why do we spend so much time worrying about the filth, we should concern ourselves with Manchester City and nothing else. The filth cannot influence our future, the filth fans are getting excited about us as we are now a genuine threat. Let them worry about us!

Awreet comrade.
I don't think we are worried about the scum, it's just good to gloat.
I love talking about their demise, I hope it happens soon.
Oh and they are worried about us......
 
I've said this before and I wish it wasn't true. But, if there is a mega rich Arab out there willing to by us then there will be a few falling over themselves to buy them, especially at a knock down "take on the debt" price.
I dread to think what would happen if them cnuts got our financial muscle. Contrary to what they say they have been buying the league for years by spending a lot of money, If they get mega rich we're all fcuked!!
 
charliebigspuds said:
I've said this before and I wish it wasn't true. But, if there is a mega rich Arab out there willing to by us then there will be a few falling over themselves to buy them, especially at a knock down "take on the debt" price.
I dread to think what would happen if them cnuts got our financial muscle. Contrary to what they say they have been buying the league for years by spending a lot of money, If they get mega rich we're all fcuked!!

We were bought for peanuts before the global credit crunch kicked in. And we were a club that could be easily built up and made great, thereby giving the new owner worldwide status and reflected glory. Minimal risk for maximum profit for Mansour.

Utd will cost a billion to buy, in a post-credit crunch climate so it's highly unlikely that anyone is willing to invest that money and then have to start spending big on top to really build the brand, which can't be made any bigger around the world. There is nothing in it for a new investor (apart from hoping to make a profit through re-sale - which is what the Glazers wanted them for - but the worldwide recession screwed it up for them). Maximum risk for minimal profit for anyone dumb enough to try it.

Their best days are well and truly behind them.

Tick tock.
 
Blue Train said:
charliebigspuds said:
I've said this before and I wish it wasn't true. But, if there is a mega rich Arab out there willing to by us then there will be a few falling over themselves to buy them, especially at a knock down "take on the debt" price.
I dread to think what would happen if them cnuts got our financial muscle. Contrary to what they say they have been buying the league for years by spending a lot of money, If they get mega rich we're all fcuked!!

We were bought for peanuts before the global credit crunch kicked in. And we were a club that could be easily built up and made great, thereby giving the new owner worldwide status and reflected glory. Minimal risk for maximum profit for Mansour.

Utd will cost a billion to buy, in a post-credit crunch climate so it's highly unlikely that anyone is willing to invest that money and then have to start spending big on top to really build the brand, which can't be made any bigger around the world. There is nothing in it for a new investor (apart from hoping to make a profit through re-sale - which is what the Glazers wanted them for - but the worldwide recession screwed it up for them). Maximum risk for minimal profit for anyone dumb enough to try it.

Their best days are well and truly behind them.

Tick tock.

There's something slightly wrong there?
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
We were bought for peanuts before the global credit crunch kicked in. And we were a club that could be easily built up and made great, thereby giving the new owner worldwide status and reflected glory. Minimal risk for maximum profit for Mansour.

Utd will cost a billion to buy, in a post-credit crunch climate so it's highly unlikely that anyone is willing to invest that money and then have to start spending big on top to really build the brand, which can't be made any bigger around the world. There is nothing in it for a new investor (apart from hoping to make a profit through re-sale - which is what the Glazers wanted them for - but the worldwide recession screwed it up for them). Maximum risk for minimal profit for anyone dumb enough to try it.

Their best days are well and truly behind them.

Tick tock.

There's something slightly wrong there?

No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.
 
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.
 
bluebarn said:
What a great wind up it would be if at the LC Semi we have a new chant where we just stand there slowing repeating Tick Tock Tick Tock!
top idea! can just see it now every man woman and child on there feet chanting it

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!
 
mammutly said:
kiam06 said:
Sol Campbell, that tells you all you need to know about the rags debt.

Doesn't really tell you much except the transfer window is closed

Opens in three weeks! Sol Campbell is pure desperation if they were not skint they would have a top class defender lined up for then not a has been who couldn't handle Notts County.
 
kiam06 said:
mammutly said:
Doesn't really tell you much except the transfer window is closed

Opens in three weeks! Sol Campbell is pure desperation if they were not skint they would have a top class defender lined up for then not a has been who couldn't handle Notts County.
Sol Campbell still has something about him to attract Uniteds interest,Owen too, still a scorer of goals, But why they in for them?

hahahaa!


TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.

Even the very best business people in the world would think twice about gambling £1bn, I think our guy for all his wealth may shirk at gambling £1bn.
 
mammutly said:
Blue Train said:
No, what I mean is any investor will have to pay a billion up front just to stand still, then invest heavily in the team in order to ensure league, cup and Champs league glory... all in order to keep the global Utd brand exactly what it already is in the world. And they get nothing from it because people expect Utd to be successful. There's no taking credit for their success. But they'll certainly take the blame for their decline. So it's a high risk venture for little or no gain.

And that's the exact opposite of our situation with Mansour.


See where you are coming from. An association with a successful club is valuable in itself, which is why the bigger clubs attract global brand sponsors. There is potential to use the MUFC brand in other ways (clothing, financial products etc.) and to expand into new markets (china). They have a head start on most other clubs, so would still be an attractive purchase.

Appreciate your point about the risk of a potential decline, but that's a risk that anyone investing in sport has to take and, like with us, it wouldn't be for want of funds if it did happen.

I don't think anyone who bought the rags would be in it to make a direct profit.

Even the very best business people in the world would think twice about gambling £1bn, I think our guy for all his wealth may shirk at gambling £1bn.
 

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