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[bigquinn772]

Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Will the FA have the balls to do this?

Furious referees demand that FA shut Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson up for good following his withering attack on Alan Wiley

By Alan Biggs
Last updated at 11:41 PM on 06th October 2009

Furious referees want Sir Alex Ferguson to be hit with a UEFA-style coaching ban for branding referee Alan Wiley unfit.

That would mean the Manchester United boss being barred from any contact with his players on match days as well as being forbidden from going into the Old Trafford dressing room or travelling on the team bus.

England’s leading match officials are demanding tough action because they fear Ferguson could escape with a token punishment from the FA, who have asked the manager to explain his comments after United’s 2-2 draw with Sunderland on Saturday.

FA sources refused to rule out such action amid exclusive Pro-Zone evidence from Sportsmail that proved Ferguson’s outburst was unjustified.

Ferguson said of Wiley: ‘It took him at least 30 seconds every time he booked a player and I think that was because he wanted to take a rest.’

In European games, managers are not only liable to touchline bans for contentious comments, but are also completely separated from their players.

The FA have established that such a ban is available as a punishment, though it has never been applied in such a case before.

Former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho was banned from both legs of his side’s Champions League quarter-final with Bayern Munich in 2005 for claiming Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard had entered the dressing room of referee Anders Frisk.

Two weeks later, Frisk quit after death threats while Mourinho dodged the ban by being smuggled into the dressing room in a laundry skip.

England’s outraged match officials believe that without similar measures, they will be open to cheap shots that question their ability. And they fear Ferguson will again evade a punishment meaningful enough to act as a deterrent.

Ian Leighton, the national secretary of professionals’ union Prospect, who represent referees, told BBC Radio 5 Live: ‘I don’t know what Sir Alex earns but a small fine or a touchline suspension would be like water off a duck’s back to him, so there has to be some recognition that this is a serious allegation that needs to be properly dealt with and punished severely.

‘There are issues around suspension from the job that would be new territory, but the FA has to grab the nettle on this one. There has to be some sort of punishment that’s going to stop people from doing this or otherwise we’re going to see more and more of it.

‘We have to be talking about punishments that are going to really lead to a change in behaviour.’

But the Ferguson case is in danger of dragging on because the governing body’s new fast-track procedure on managers only applies to behaviour in the technical area.

The FA are also unable within their rules to decide on whether to charge Ferguson until he has submitted his reply, ordered by October 13, to a fax seeking an explanation for his comments.

Ferguson has served several bans in the past relating to touchline outbursts but they
have never been applied to his frequent post-match criticisms of referees.

However, he was given a stiff warning after his most recent escape 12 months ago. The FA told Ferguson he would be charged for any scathing attack similar to that on Martin Atkinson and referees’ manager Keith Hackett after United’s FA Cup quarter-final defeat to Portsmouth.

His let-off over ‘inappropriate’ comments carried the proviso of meeting Hackett for clear-the-air talks which later took place.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

 

[beano46]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Will the FA have the balls to do this?

In an ideal world yes, in reality then no because we we all know that everyone at the FA have got their tonuges jammed firmly up the arse of old Baconface and always will have

 

[NPBlue]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Probably not.

The FA are scared of him.

When we watched him lambasting the 4th official on TV last weekend, you can understand why football at grass roots level has it's problems with discipline. He epitomised the frustrated dad who thinks he can get his way with aggression, finger pointing and foul language.

In a sporting sense, he is a disgrace, not just to football, but to the ethics of sport in general.

He is a dreadful role model, and the sooner he is shipped out to his BBC less world the better.

 

[KentBlue]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Did anyone see on the news last night Bobby Charlton standing there defending Baconface's comments? It absolutely beggars belief that the rags themselves are now trying to justify these spiteful hate-filled comments. It's as if they're saying: "Well, it's just Fergie being Fergie. No harm done, eh? Let's just move on."


My own view is that for the good of the game drastic action has to be taken against this bullying hypocrite. Way too often in the past we've seen him and his players intimidate ref's and linesmen when things haven't gone their way: we've seen them time and time again flout every rule in the book and walk away unpunished because the FA live in fear of reprisals from the Glaswegian despot.

If the FA want to prove to the world that they are not the snivelling cowards most people outside of Stretford see them as then they really are going to have to come down heavy on the bully-boy. Make an example of him and teach him to toe the line like everyone else has to.

 

[mancity dan]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Well said Kent

I can't see the FA having the balls to do anything against baconface. I think it will just be a slapped wrist...AGAIN and probably a 2 or 3 game touchline ban...

Here's hoping that it is more severe though

 

[Pam]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

Did anyone see on the news last night Bobby Charlton standing there defending Baconface's comments? It absolutely beggars belief that the rags themselves are now trying to justify these spiteful hate-filled comments. It's as if they're saying: "Well, it's just Fergie being Fergie. No harm done, eh? Let's just move on."


My own view is that for the good of the game drastic action has to be taken against this bullying hypocrite. Way too often in the past we've seen him and his players intimidate ref's and linesmen when things haven't gone their way: we've seen them time and time again flout every rule in the book and walk away unpunished because the FA live in fear of reprisals from the Glaswegian despot.

If the FA want to prove to the world that they are not the snivelling cowards most people outside of Stretford see them as then they really are going to have to come down heavy on the bully-boy. Make an example of him and teach him to toe the line like everyone else has to.

Well said Kent but we all know the cowards at the F.A. are scared stiff of old rasher features and this will die the death after a slap on the wrist. It will be interesting to see if all this bad press will influence his future behaviour, though. I feel like that's far more likely to temper things than anything the FA do or (more likely) don't do.

 

[mancity1]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

If players or mangers criticise referees in the media they ususlly cop a fine or in the managers case a touchline ban and Fergie will be no different.

The simple solution is to ban Fergie from conducting any post match interviews , any pre match interviews and having any dealings whatsoever with any form of media and visa versa.

Whether the media can live without him is another matter.

It seems the media are more important or at least see themselves as more important than the game they cover and when Fergie goes to town on someone its good fodder for them.

While both maintain their egocentric attitude to perceived incompetence nothing will improve but get rid of Fergie and believe me the media will miss him more than he would them and the censorship civil libertarians and right to free speech gurus would be out in force.

 

[hertsblue]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

One of the worst knighthoods ever, to call this man a Sir when he is a arrogant bully sums up the knighthood system in this country when even cricketers get them by winning one match every now and again.

What should happen:

1) Touchline Ban as his rant was far worse than wenger kicking a bottle.
2) He refuses to speak to BBC- Then BBC bosses tells Utd that they wont show thier games. Lets see how long it is till the top brass at Utd tell Ferguson he has to speak to the BBC.

Well all know though this wont happen as FA are too weak and the BBC too afraid of not showing Utd games due to thier audience figures

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Is Baconface going to be shut up for good?

The man is a disgusting bully who's manner breeds other disgusting bullies disguised as "winners" like Keane.
The rant he had at Wiley was just the tip of the iceberg.A tiresome,stubborn old bastard past his sell by date and struggling to come to terms with the changes in his own backyard-hence the "bitterometer" being turned up to max.

It makes me cringe when this creature is mentioned in the media as a "great" alongside the likes of Paisley and Mercer-gentlemen who knew how to win and lose.A winner yes-great,never.

The sooner this foul,odious man shrugs of into the sunset with his bottle of Asda malt the better.