Rayan Aït-Nouri

[M16 citeh]

We've got to stop putting Philips and Nunes in the same bracket of player. Some people might not like Nunes, but he has at least contributed.

Fair enough mate I agree with that. But you wouldn't pay £50m for him given the chance again would ya!?

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Do they? Who would you identify, of the players who cost a bit of money and didn't get sold on for what we paid or more, did the scouts get badly wrong? I reckon it's these:

Disaster: Mangala, Philips, Mendy (hardly the scouts fault), Bony, Jovetic (due to injury)

Never good enough: Sinclair, Rodwell, Gomez, Angelino, Nastasic, Garcia

Underwhelming: Nunes, Fernando, Navas, Torres, Grealish (for the money), Danilo, Nolito

For my money (and I might have forgotten a couple) that's all of shite signings since the infamously terrible transfer window of in the 12/13 season. And even some of these played an important role at times. The rags would manage that level of failure in a couple of transfer windows.

I liked Danilo thought he was good

 

[M16 citeh]

We paid more than that for Mendy and Walker years ago

Tbf just seen hes got a 50 percent sell on fee... But he's only got 1 year left on his deal. Funny one to price up but wolves will try and get as much as they can due to the sell on clause. Still tho... Just pay it!

 

[Dax777]

Well, if we take out O’Reilly and Nunes, because they aren’t defenders and if we are to improve they can’t play there..

Stones will be sold or will be injured, so I’d say Kushanov is the one with real pace, but I get the feeling it will probs be gvardiol and Dias first choice, who are good defenders but are bit slow. It’s nice to have full backs with pace to cover them?

I like ait nouri from a footballing viewpoint. It’s not all bad. I think he’s a decent signing, but yeah, think he lacks that acceleration.

Gvardiol is faster than the average CB. on the high end of CBs for speed outside of the extreme case like Khusanov and the dude at Spurs. Dias is slow, but everyone else is average ( Ake, Lewis) or Above average ( Akanji, Stones). We simply do not have a slow defense.

Ait Nouri would be for Fullbacks what Gvardiol is for CBs. On the fast side but not extreme like Robinson

I think your speed worries are overblown.

 

[eastmanc]

Fair enough mate I agree with that. But you wouldn't pay £50m for him given the chance again would ya!?

Can't get all the signings right, we've done pretty well over the years.

 

[Ajm1985]

Damn rhat

Gvardiol is faster than the average CB. on the high end of CBs for speed outside of the extreme case like Khusanov and the dude at Spurs. Dias is slow, but everyone else is average ( Ake, Lewis) or Above average ( Akanji, Stones). We simply do not have a slow defense.

Ait Nouri would be for Fullbacks what Gvardiol is for CBs. On the fast side but not extreme like Robinson

I think your speed worries are overblown.

It's just demonstrably false that he's 'chronically slow'. Bit of a mad statement, which overshadows whatever other criticism he has

 

[lol yank]

Do they? Who would you identify, of the players who cost a bit of money and didn't get sold on for what we paid or more, did the scouts get badly wrong? I reckon it's these:

Disaster: Mangala, Philips, Mendy (hardly the scouts fault), Bony, Jovetic (due to injury)

Never good enough: Sinclair, Rodwell, Gomez, Angelino, Nastasic, Garcia

Underwhelming: Nunes, Fernando, Navas, Torres, Grealish (for the money), Danilo, Nolito

For my money (and I might have forgotten a couple) that's all of shite signings since the infamously terrible transfer window of in the 12/13 season. And even some of these played an important role at times. The rags would manage that level of failure in a couple of transfer windows.

I personally am offended Danilo and Jesus navas are in the same category. Navas may have been a worse crosser of the ball than Kyle walker.

Danilo was quite useful in his time here imo. Didn’t play the most minutes but thought he always put in a good shift. Thought the same of nolito before he came out and put forward the hilariously bizarre quotes of his child’s face turning a different color because of the Manchester weather.

Navas on the other hand. Infuriating.

 

[teddykgb]

Danilo had the infuriating habit of shooting moonshots from distance at every opportunity

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Luckily, it meant NOR could solidify a place in the squad for the second half of the season. That Everton goal away at Goodison was vital.

I wonder where Oreily will play now and if he’ll get enough game time

 

[69FACUPfinal]

I liked Danilo thought he was good

I did too.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

I wonder where Oreily will play now and if he’ll get enough game time

same place, backup LB

 

[Nevizade]

same place, backup LB

Might see him in CM in this tournament with Rodri there to hold his hand

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Might see him in CM in this tournament with Rodri there to hold his hand

Maybe, but doubt it, loads of players to give time there to.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I wonder where Oreily will play now and if he’ll get enough game time

Part of Pep’s reduced squad is likely to mean minutes for all in that squad. Back up left back and plenty of midfield minutes I would say

 

[MCFC1993]

 

[Vester]

I explained the stats i based it on. High rates of tackles coupled with low rates of getting skinned, per 90 minutes. Dalot, Mitchell and Udogie were the only ones with better stats in that narrow context So as a 1 v 1 defender, Rayan, was part of the cream of that class last season.

The point isn't that Dalot is good ( even though he is decent) rather it's to show that "defensive solidity" in fullbacks is a bit of a myth.

Kyle Walker at his peak is an anomaly. And even then, what Kyle had in spades at 1 v 1 defending, he lacked in general defensive awareness. So even prime Kyle wasn't that good defensively at everything. He was just very good at the flashy defensive part. I.e. duels, strength and athleticism.

Well, in my opinion those pinpointed stats says little to nothing about how good a player is at defending. Evident by the players you highlighted as being top in those categories.

Ait-Nouri is a good attacking wingback and hopefully Pep can help him become a good attacking fullback thats also good enough in defense. He will, in my opinion, have to improve in the defensive area if he wants to be a regular starter here. But its usually easier to learn an attacking player to be good enough in defense than the other way around so there is many reasons to be optimistic about his chances to become a good player for us if we sign him! But we dont need to pretend there isn't some question marks about his defense and ability to play in a back 4.

 

[mancboy]

Well, in my opinion those pinpointed stats says little to nothing about how good a player is at defending. Evident by the players being highlighted as top in those categories.

Ait-Nouri is a good attacking wingback and hopefully Pep can help him become a good attacking fullback thats also good enough in defense. He will, in my opinion, have to improve in the defensive area if he wants to be a regular starter here. But its usually easier to learn an attacking player to be good enough in defense than the other way around so there is many reasons to be optimistic about his chances to become a good player for us if we sign him! But we dont need to pretend there isn't some question marks about his defense and ability to play in a back 4.

Erm not sure if you saw our fullbacks and there defending last year lol

 

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[RobinHood]

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Fabrizio from Del Monte?

 

[Bluearmy]

Tbf just seen hes got a 50 percent sell on fee... But he's only got 1 year left on his deal. Funny one to price up but wolves will try and get as much as they can due to the sell on clause. Still tho... Just pay it!

Apparently Wolves have the option to extend so a bit messy/added complexity!!