RB Leipzig (A) - Post-match Thread

[Pingu the Penguin]

Walker should have known better with this ref but not a sending off

A wild boot nowhere near the ball. A red all day these days

 

[Blue Til Death]

Off topic, but does anyone know the origin of the phrase dead rubber?

It’s a term from a card game, rubber bridge, where the game can be won after 2 out of 3 contracts making the 3rd a dead rubber ..

That’s what google told me anyway

 

[CWMCFC]

Too much complacency tonight.

Feel like we missed a trick by not playing a few of the kids - at least you know they're always going to be up for a deadrubber and give 110%. The same can't be said for the majority on that pitch tonight.

The outcome may well have been the same, but we would have given them a rare starting opportunity against a decent side where the result doesn't matter. The perfect time for them to get some game time under their belt before we kick off a busy run of fixtures.

Dinho's just sadly so far off the pace now I do worry if Rodri picks up an injury this season - with the amount of games he's playing, it's inevitable at this point. It's why bedding someone like Lavia in when the pressure is off makes sense.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

I'm sure google will tell you, if you ask it ;)

Just giving the forum a chance to showcase its knowledge :-p

 

[MadchesterCity]

What’s the worst non-English team we can hope for on Monday?
That’s what’s on my mind now

Barcelona

 

[BM96]

Who has played too much there apart from maybe gundogan and walker ?

Foden and Grealish have just come back from injuries. Kdb just came back but played 90. He got foden ok, he only played 45. But he could of rested both and took kdb off after 60-70 for me.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Barcelona

I don’t think they’re going through

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Meant a lot more to Leipzig than ourselves and it showed for the majority of the game , they had something to play for and we were in the comfort zone , the result means absolutely nothing apart from the fact we missed an opportunity to give our academy players some game time. Not going to dig out individuals because apart from Steffen every player was below par , would rather have this happen tonight than on Saturday.
Must mention that referee , Leipzig allowed to foul with impunity and KDB gets booked for taking a quick free kick sums up the officials performance and VAR for the nailed on penalty that BT decided not to even replay , if UEFA or the media have an opportunity to stitch us up they take it with both hands. Well fuck'em.

 

[chaddblue]

I quoted you about your wild statement suggesting it could have just been a booking. I then made my own comment about the game as it’s the match day thread. Not related to your post.

Wild statement lol!! Hope the Leipzig player isn’t out for too long

i was actually agreeing with you saying you’d take a bad performance in a dead rubber by saying I’m not arsed by the result and performance

 

[Cityfan1977]

And in the same situation as a 2-1 loss but with walker available. I disagree that he should of played 11 kids, but they said he made 7 changes from the weekend. So atleast mcatee Palmer and a defender for walker should of been out there.
That didn't send the right message out to Palmer and mcatee. I was shocked they didn't start.

I agree with you and I would have done the same but who would you play as a right back against Angelino ?

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Off topic, but does anyone know the origin of the phrase dead rubber?

Leipzig 2 City 1

 

[Brewster's millions]

All a bit weird tonight - can’t really figure out what the objective was given that a number of players could have done with a rest, coupled with the schedule we’re facing this month. The players didn’t look interested and the number of silly offsides suggests attitude was an issue. Would have expected at least one of Palmer / McAtee to start, although after tonight they’re probably a bit lower down the pecking order than everybody assumed.

The only positives were Steffen and Zinchenko, but the overriding feelings are (1) just how dependent we are on Rodri/Bernado/Dias staying fit and (2) that we have a few players who continue to be badly out of form.

Stones hasn’t got going this season at all - he seems much less engaged and aggressive than he was last year - and KDB remains a marginal figure. Having been ill with Covid myself last year I know how much it can take out of you, so I’m not criticising him on tonight alone, but he’s been on the periphery for a good while now and he needs to turn it around quite quickly around if he wants to be as important to the team as he used to be. Grealish meanwhile still not convincing for me.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

its a game that really city and pep did not need to win. but the officials bloody made it 100% we was not winning.
ok its a meaningless game but uefa and its bent officials made it a ugly game and walker lost the plot at the end

something happened for walker to lose it that bad ? the stone wall pen. the stones booking. letting there centre back kick us off the park without punishment. maybe he said something to walker and enough was enough

the thing i am taking out of the game tonight is manchester city are not going to be allow to win the champions league this season ? its a stark warning after what i watched tonight by the officials in a meaningless game

We never used to moan about officials like we now seem to ?
City as a team and Pep's lack of change, are to blame for tonight's defeat, in my opinion.
Leizip were more organised and eager than City. Steffan made some very good saves, as Leipzig knew when to attack.
Once again, Pep never saw the need to use his subs. Why make your second/third change in the 86th minute ?
We have won the group, so let's hope we learn from that disappointing performance and deserved result...

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Off topic, but does anyone know the origin of the phrase dead rubber?

Bridge term I think.

Playing the last hand when the result is already known.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Fixed

*lol* You may have guessed from my post that I didn’t watch the second half. My great granddaughter got her Mum to ring me on the way back from her swimming lesson! Sorry, not much is more important than City but she is! :-)

I see 3 people have voted for our Kyle though as MOTM. Not usual for a goalkeeper to get so many votes!

 

[eboblue]

Obviously not many on here..

Games in a series are called rubbers - eg in tennis,,bridge. Obviously, as in city's case, the final 'rubber' in a series doesn't have any affect on the overall outcome hence a dead rubber

 

[hihosilva]

A wild boot nowhere near the ball. A red all day these days

Yeah he kicked the opponents ankles but how often do you see a player only get a yellow for hacking down a player when trying to stop the advantage.

 

[bellsouth]

It’s just bizarre you take the kids and not use them.

 

[Dribble]

John is 27 and insanely talented yet he still needs a grown-up beside him to hold his hand. Sadly his mentality and concentration can’t be trusted otherwise.
Of our four centre halves, that tonight is comfortably our worst combination. The worst player paired with the worst mind

Don't you think the fact it was a pointless match that had a lot to do with our approach? Imagine getting a season ending injury in a match of this magnitude?

I could barely be arsed watching it, so imagine what the players felt like being dragged halfway across Europe, to play in front of 10 Leipsig ball boys? :-|

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Meant a lot more to Leipzig than ourselves and it showed for the majority of the game , they had something to play for and we were in the comfort zone , the result means absolutely nothing apart from the fact we missed an opportunity to give our academy players some game time. Not going to dig out individuals because apart from Steffen every player was below par , would rather have this happen tonight than on Saturday.
Must mention that referee , Leipzig allowed to foul with impunity and KDB gets booked for taking a quick free kick sums up the officials performance and VAR for the nailed on penalty that BT decided not to even replay , if UEFA or the media have an opportunity to stitch us up they take it with both hands. Well fuck'em.

Don’t forget the footage we see when we’re away from home is the footage from the TV channels in the country we’re playing in. That was the German sports channel who decided not to show the replay. And to be fair to BT, even Keown said “I don’t know what City have to do to get a free kick in this game”… it was the same away in Brugge, the referee was absolutely terrible (as they mostly are in Europe).