Record sales

I collect rare soul/Rhythm&Blues from the 50s/60s..all original 7inch vinyl

I spent more on them than I do on City and that's saying something

Im pretty knowledgable though..bought one record for $10 end of last year and sold it to fund both my semi final and final Wembley trips ;-)
 
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
johnmc said:
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
I wouldn't give them two. Popular music's selling point is it's image. The fact this is ignored so much is an insane tragedy.

Who would a teenager listen to now that you would bet they would still listen to when they are 40. I got into oasis at 15 and I think it's safe to say I'll listen to them for the rest of my life, not everyone's taste but no one could argue it's proper music.

I couldn't honestly tell you one artist who is newish now who people might listen to in 10 years.

In the charts? Not one. The standard is so, so poor that there is little attempt to write better music than throw in a few cliches about love over a catchy tune. The days of bands like Oasis reaching the heights, and The Stone Roses before them, and The Smiths before them are long gone. Mixing quality music with anthemic, memorable lyrics is music at its best. Such a shame that so many people are missing out on it because of the force-fed, processed, preened and prettied collection of mediocrity given to them today by TV and YouTube.

Fucking hell, I feel about 37, not 17.

Wondered how long it'd take for the Ss to get a mention. Sigh...
 
As soon as MP3 became an acceptable format to listen to music all quality went out of the window. At the bit rates most kids download at any subtlety is lost on them.

I collect vinyl. I have sold albums for hundreds of pounds and it is still my preferred listening medium despite owning Cds and streaming facilities.
 
johnmc said:
You see blue2112 you are listening to stuff you probably did 20/30 years ago. Will our kids be listening to one direction in 5 years?

There are some great bands still making a name for themselves but they are becoming few and far between. I do think the music industry makes it almost impossible these days for bands to find true longevity, to go out on the road, learn their trade and grow as musicians. It's all about the here and now, here today and gone tomorrow to be followed by the next greatest thing since the last and big up the image as much as possible.

My 19 year old listens to some right old shite, its all R&B crap, gives me a fucking headache but I try not to be a grumpy old father. I tell her if she wants to hear some real rhythm and blues then I've a shelf full of the genuine stuff, but i'm talking to myself most of the time. My youngest (17) to be fair is more akin to myself and will listen to anything from Zeppelin, Metallica to Madonna and Gaga or whatever.

Simon Cowell has a fucking lot to answer for, the X factors the final nail in the coffin. I mean can anybody really see another Johnny Rotten coming around the corner and tearing it all up and starting a rebellion. It's just all too fucking cosy and nice and they've got it all stitched up to the max.
 
BTH said:
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
johnmc said:
Who would a teenager listen to now that you would bet they would still listen to when they are 40. I got into oasis at 15 and I think it's safe to say I'll listen to them for the rest of my life, not everyone's taste but no one could argue it's proper music.

I couldn't honestly tell you one artist who is newish now who people might listen to in 10 years.

In the charts? Not one. The standard is so, so poor that there is little attempt to write better music than throw in a few cliches about love over a catchy tune. The days of bands like Oasis reaching the heights, and The Stone Roses before them, and The Smiths before them are long gone. Mixing quality music with anthemic, memorable lyrics is music at its best. Such a shame that so many people are missing out on it because of the force-fed, processed, preened and prettied collection of mediocrity given to them today by TV and YouTube.

Fucking hell, I feel about 37, not 17.

Wondered how long it'd take for the Ss to get a mention. Sigh...

It's all opinions, bud. But for someone who was born about 10 years after they were popular, I still find their music quality.
 
When you are young though it's not cool to like what your dad does. My dad was a big van Morrison fan. I didn't get it mainly id say because I didn't want to listen to the same music he did.

Now i can get enough.
 
I don't think you're giving the kids of today nearly enough credit. Yeah, okay, there are lots of people my age (21) and younger who listen to what can only be described as absolute dross. However, we're not all idiots with zero music taste who just download track after track and delete it ten days later. A lot of people I know listen exclusively to classic tracks from the 70s, 80s and 90s. Some even listen to classical music. I know a few people my age who collect CDs and vinyl records.

I'd say at least half of us have some modicum of appreciation for good music and wont even contemplate the thought of listening to whatever the hell is top of the charts these days. As for popular bands being uncool because of their popularity, I don't think that's particularly a new thing. People do that in every hobby, be it music/films/sport, if something becomes popular people begin to dislike it. Everybody likes to make out they're niche.

I might be a tad older than the group were describing here but I have a 15 year old step brother who's favourite artists include Prince. The nostalgic will always claim some generational gap and that "music/sport/cars/coffee/tv/society was better back in the day." Just because music is more accessible these days doesn't mean we appreciate it any less, it's just opened up a world of possibilities to us.
 
Most of the music I listen to now came out when I was a kid, like 5yrs old or something, when I was completely unaware of this music.

Let the kids buy this bubblegum shite, let them line the pockets, hey I enjoy watching X-factor (even though the music they will make is shit)

I can guarantee as they get older and develop a music-conscious they will explore bands such as Smiths, Who and so on.....

I remember hating The Stone Roses, didn't like it at all, then my older brother kept playing it too me all the time and eventually bought me the self-titled lp.
They aren't my fav band but this got me exploring more local bands and into indie music.

The morale of the story is: make sure the next-gen know who you liked, and show them what tunes you listen to.

doesn't matter if they are hardened Olly Murrs Take That fanboys, play them something they haven't heard before and they'll tune in.
 
Fair enough skyblueflux but who is selling records now that will still be about in 10/20/30 years. Bieber/eminem/katy perry all sell millions to today's youth, the numbers they pull put most people in history in the shade. But will they be about and listened to in 20 years?

My initial point was way back when record sales meant something. The biggest selling artists 30 or 40 years ago (Beatles/stones) and even 10 or 20 years ago (oasis/nirvana) will be listened to for a good while. The biggest selling artists today are bubble gum and will be forgotten in 2 year when their balls drop and the next one comes along. Im not saying some kids don't know whats what. Just that they have nothing current and popular and credible to follow for them to say I was part of that
 

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