Reddit Soccer Streams

Can't go because of price.
Can't go because you can't get a ticket.
Can't watch 3 o'clock kick offs because of the restrictions.

The solution is obvious make it affordable all on one platform, but no they just want control.

What makes me wonder is if sport is driven by sponsorships wouldn't those sponsors want an ever growing viewing base to see those sponsorships on the screen with the adverts etc? If the grounds are full then why chase the streaming sites as vigorously as they do?
 
normskih said:
Yes, they should have one subscription fits all and at a reasonable price.
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mexico1970 said:
Can't go because of price.
Can't go because you can't get a ticket.
Can't watch 3 o'clock kick offs because of the restrictions.

The solution is obvious make it affordable all on one platform, but no they just want control.

What makes me wonder is if sport is driven by sponsorships wouldn't those sponsors want an ever growing viewing base to see those sponsorships on the screen with the adverts etc? If the grounds are full then why chase the streaming sites as vigorously as they do?
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I don't get why the Premier League doesn't just make its own channel. Every game pay per view. Official viewing figures for the PL is 3.2 billion legal views Worldwide on TV.

Surely you could charge even just a pound per game and make an absolute load of money.

Advertising revenue on top.

You'd catch a bunch of people who stream now illegally.

In the UK you can stream online the 3pm kickoffs. I must be missing something.
 
pee dubya said:
I don't get why the Premier League doesn't just make its own channel. Every game pay per view. Official viewing figures for the PL is 3.2 billion legal views Worldwide on TV.

Surely you could charge even just a pound per game and make an absolute load of money.

Advertising revenue on top.

You'd catch a bunch of people who stream now illegally.

In the UK you can stream online the 3pm kickoffs. I must be missing something.
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Personally I wouldn’t want the 3pm kick offs to be readily available as I do think it would have a big impact on the teams lower down who have been shat on enough already.
 
meltonblue said:
Personally I wouldn’t want the 3pm kick offs to be readily available as I do think it would have a big impact on the teams lower down who have been shat on enough already.
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Seems to work in other parts of the world without a drop in attendance figures, but to counteract your argument they could release the PL and championship from those shackles but they wont.

They want to keep the product (That's all it is now) at a premium and to do that they have to add a level of exclusivity to that product so they can sell it as a product you can aspire to be a part of.

Keeping the games on multi platforms maximises profit they are never willingly going to change that.

Clubs at the top get more money year on year.
Players cost more money year on year.
Fans pay more money year on year.

Nobody benefits but the players who are now distant from the fans and owners who don't appear to care. It's time not to just break this cycle but to smash it, it's obscene now.
 
Whilst there is a lack of an adequate service provided, there will always be a market for alternative streaming.

It's well documented that, in the UK, to follow football whether it be one team or lots of teams and games, you'd have to pay multiple service providers on monthly or yearly contracts in order to see games legally, and it mounts up. Even then, the broadcasters won't commit to which games or teams they are showing, or when, until relatively close to the game. But they'll demand your money in advance regardless.

Then there is the quality of the product. Maybe it appeals to some, but I'm yet to meet any football fan who will admit to enjoying the childish buffoonery and downright intentional incitement of Carragher, Neville and Richards. The modern football 'programme' isn't what I personally want, it's a lack of insight and info, all about sensationalism and tribalism.

Even then, you can't get the 3 kick offs. Not in the UK. Sky were at my door recently trying to flog their stuff. Special offer was £55 for broadband and TV package, £20 on top for TNT, so £75 a month or £900 for a year. For internet, some TV channels, and some as yet undefined premier league games. And then, best for all, after a year it goes up to £125 per month, so just the £1.5k for the privilege! Oh and don't forget your £150 or so for your TV licence to watch live TV...

And I still don't get what I want. I tried telling the guy, I just want to watch city. Maybe another relevant game now and then if a title chase, but I'm a city fan with two kids, I don't have time to watch a 2 hour circus hyping up Sunderland Vs Wolves, let alone the desire.

So, here we are. I can't buy the product I want to have because I'm in the UK. Not officially anyway. I can buy some of the games, if I have a spare grand an a half for sky, and they'll let me know when they're good and ready which games I've paid for, and when they'll show them. How kind. Then I get that spitty dickhead on my screen telling me his insights which ultimately always add up to how Liverpool would have done it better. Oh, just fantastic, do you take donations too sky?

So they've gone and created the market themselves by cutting up the product and trying to force feed it to us at extortionate prices. It's like buying a new car then having to negotiate the provision of the engine piece by piece. Then at the end they tell you windows are impossible to provide.

I have no objections to paying for a good service. But the service I want doesn't exist in the form I want it, is hugely overpriced for what I would get, and in terms of quality is not the type of analysis and discussion I want to heat or see.

Tell you what sky, offer me a package to access just one game, pick and choose. Oh, you do. It's called now TV and it's only £14.99 per day. Gosh, so if you did show all city's 38 league games then I could access them for the bargain price of £570! Hell, who would be rushing to throw away their season ticket at that price?

The music and video game industry are an example of overcoming piracy effectively. They both made their products accessible via multiple outlets, creating competition as well as increasing users, breaking down barriers to access the product, very commercially in fact, and effectively made it uncompetitive and inconvenient for people to use dodgy sites anymore. Mostly.

Until they stop being so greedy and short sighted, streams and apps will continue to pop up and be used. Because there is a market for them. Because people feel ripped off and thus entitled to take something back.

If the premier league don't want to sell rights to UK broadcast of 3pm Saturday kick offs, then someone somewhere sees money to be made. And if they make it a low enough price to pay, even free, then the premier league can't even argue how much money they've lost. Viva la Reddit streams!
 
mexico1970 said:
Seems to work in other parts of the world without a drop in attendance figures, but to counteract your argument they could release the PL and championship from those shackles but they wont.

They want to keep the product (That's all it is now) at a premium and to do that they have to add a level of exclusivity to that product so they can sell it as a product you can aspire to be a part of.

Keeping the games on multi platforms maximises profit they are never willingly going to change that.

Clubs at the top get more money year on year.
Players cost more money year on year.
Fans pay more money year on year.

Nobody benefits but the players who are now distant from the fans and owners who don't appear to care. It's time not to just break this cycle but to smash it, it's obscene now.
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I agree about the multiple platforms, just not playing the 3pm kick offs.
 
meltonblue said:
I agree about the multiple platforms, just not playing the 3pm kick offs.
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You could just move the PL to Sundays with Friday/Saturday lunchtime/Saturday evening for teams playing in the CL the following Tuesday and Monday evenings for teams not in Europe, so no Saturday 3PM’s needed.

In effect, Saturday would be for the football league and non league. You might even get some crossover with PL fans watching some league and non league games.

You’d could even play 2 games at 1200, 1400 and 1600 on t(e Sunday the PL should stream them all themselves with a multiple offer of subscriptions. Say £4 a game or £10 a month. They’d clean up.

Also, as you’d only be moving games with CL involvement, there’d be no risk of last minute changes to fixtures or any need to delay when games will be played.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
You could just move the PL to Sundays with Friday/Saturday lunchtime/Saturday evening for teams playing in the CL the following Tuesday and Monday evenings for teams not in Europe, so no Saturday 3PM’s needed.

In effect, Saturday would be for the football league and non league. You might even get some crossover with PL fans watching some league and non league games.

You’d could even play 2 games at 1200, 1400 and 1600 on t(e Sunday the PL should stream them all themselves with a multiple offer of subscriptions. Say £4 a game or £10 a month. They’d clean up.

Also, as you’d only be moving games with CL involvement, there’d be no risk of last minute changes to fixtures or any need to delay when games will be played.
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I’d like that and your point on the crossover is exactly why I wouldn’t want to see 3pm PL games televised.

I go to Notts County and there’s quite a few Forest fans that do too when they can. They wouldn’t get those anywhere near as often.
 
bluetonium said:
Whilst there is a lack of an adequate service provided, there will always be a market for alternative streaming.

It's well documented that, in the UK, to follow football whether it be one team or lots of teams and games, you'd have to pay multiple service providers on monthly or yearly contracts in order to see games legally, and it mounts up. Even then, the broadcasters won't commit to which games or teams they are showing, or when, until relatively close to the game. But they'll demand your money in advance regardless.

Then there is the quality of the product. Maybe it appeals to some, but I'm yet to meet any football fan who will admit to enjoying the childish buffoonery and downright intentional incitement of Carragher, Neville and Richards. The modern football 'programme' isn't what I personally want, it's a lack of insight and info, all about sensationalism and tribalism.

Even then, you can't get the 3 kick offs. Not in the UK. Sky were at my door recently trying to flog their stuff. Special offer was £55 for broadband and TV package, £20 on top for TNT, so £75 a month or £900 for a year. For internet, some TV channels, and some as yet undefined premier league games. And then, best for all, after a year it goes up to £125 per month, so just the £1.5k for the privilege! Oh and don't forget your £150 or so for your TV licence to watch live TV...

And I still don't get what I want. I tried telling the guy, I just want to watch city. Maybe another relevant game now and then if a title chase, but I'm a city fan with two kids, I don't have time to watch a 2 hour circus hyping up Sunderland Vs Wolves, let alone the desire.

So, here we are. I can't buy the product I want to have because I'm in the UK. Not officially anyway. I can buy some of the games, if I have a spare grand an a half for sky, and they'll let me know when they're good and ready which games I've paid for, and when they'll show them. How kind. Then I get that spitty dickhead on my screen telling me his insights which ultimately always add up to how Liverpool would have done it better. Oh, just fantastic, do you take donations too sky?

So they've gone and created the market themselves by cutting up the product and trying to force feed it to us at extortionate prices. It's like buying a new car then having to negotiate the provision of the engine piece by piece. Then at the end they tell you windows are impossible to provide.

I have no objections to paying for a good service. But the service I want doesn't exist in the form I want it, is hugely overpriced for what I would get, and in terms of quality is not the type of analysis and discussion I want to heat or see.

Tell you what sky, offer me a package to access just one game, pick and choose. Oh, you do. It's called now TV and it's only £14.99 per day. Gosh, so if you did show all city's 38 league games then I could access them for the bargain price of £570! Hell, who would be rushing to throw away their season ticket at that price?

The music and video game industry are an example of overcoming piracy effectively. They both made their products accessible via multiple outlets, creating competition as well as increasing users, breaking down barriers to access the product, very commercially in fact, and effectively made it uncompetitive and inconvenient for people to use dodgy sites anymore. Mostly.

Until they stop being so greedy and short sighted, streams and apps will continue to pop up and be used. Because there is a market for them. Because people feel ripped off and thus entitled to take something back.

If the premier league don't want to sell rights to UK broadcast of 3pm Saturday kick offs, then someone somewhere sees money to be made. And if they make it a low enough price to pay, even free, then the premier league can't even argue how much money they've lost. Viva la Reddit streams!
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Amen! Top post blue.
 
Noticed last week my usual go to (very important sports) website for streaming sports has now been blocked in the uk. Can still get it on my phone if I use a VPN but then it slows everything down to a crawl. There's other means and they'll never be able to stop it, but they are seemingly going all in to make things difficult.

Imo their greed has screwed them over, they should have acted years ago, made a condensed, dedicated premier league channel with a reasonable subscription cost and milked the billions instead of allowing us to be ripped off and forcing everybody to find alternatives means to watch what they want. Too late now though, everybody is used to illegal free streaming now.
 
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