Ref Watch

[Gazza]

Because was sent off to the stands. They’re sent out of the technical area. It’s always been like that. Famous pictures of Wenger trying to find a seat at Old Trafford when he was sent off once.

Thought the ref was very good today, I’d happily have him again. (He’s only following uefa rules on handball which are wank)

But when Pearce (our manager at the time) was sent off at Palace he was told to get out of his seat in the stands and go down the tunnel.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It isn’t a criticism of the ref, it’s a criticism of Tuchel, he should have fucked off down the tunnel with his jug ears between his legs like every other fucker who gets sent off.

I think Tuchel was trying to get sent off pretty much the entire match and wanted it to happen in the first half, probably hoping it would put his team in to siege mode, and also help him avoid rightful criticism of his managerial performance since taking over.

I actually commend the ref for not giving him what he wanted until it didn’t matter any more.

 

[David Kloppesh]

Turpin was great but that was never a penalty, the ball hit Akanji's foot first.
Local Dermot never mentioned it and said it was about if the ball went out, and the handball was certain.

 

[SamTheGuru]

That officiating team need their own Netflix series, starring the ref. So many crazy, random and bizarre things throughout.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

But when Pearce (our manager at the time) was sent off at Palace he was told to get out of his seat in the stands and go down the tunnel.

If it's the one I'm thinking of ("Am I off, ref?") he did go and sit in the stand on the opposite side of the pitch though.

Different competition, different rules

 

[FantasyIreland]

Well out of his depth

 

[Axel Freed]

Very good referee but he’s obviously been made aware of the unwritten rule in football that Ederson is the only goalkeeper who is allowed to be booked for time wasting in the first half.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Turpin was great but that was never a penalty, the ball hit Akanji's foot first.
Local Dermot never mentioned it and said it was about if the ball went out, and the handball was certain.

Yeah, I don’t quite understand people considering the Upamecano and Akanji handballs similar incidents.

One was a player charging down a shot with his arms tucked behind his back before he intentionally stuck out only one arm when he saw the ball might go by him on that side (he didn’t extend his other arm, so it wasn’t for balance). No deflection on the way, his arm was in an unnatural position (he had already tucked his arms, there was no physical reason to stretch his arm back out as he was jumping and turning), and it deviated the path of the ball. He could have completely blocked it but was just “unlucky” with his timing.

The other was a player defending on the end line, literally shoulder to shoulder with the attacker, could not have been closer to the ball without laying on it, with his arms in a natural position (same as the attacker he was defending), and the attacker kicks the ball off the players foot and it deflects up in to his arm. Ball wasn’t going toward goal, and it was barely even in play.

You could say both should be given by the letter of the law, and that’s fine, but you can’t say they are the same.

And I personally think the Upamecano handball was nailed on (and not giving it would start a free-for-all by defenders in the box) and the Akanji handball was harsh.

Thankfully, neither really impacted the outcome of the match.

 

[SWP's back]

It isn’t a criticism of the ref, it’s a criticism of Tuchel, he should have fucked off down the tunnel with his jug ears between his legs like every other fucker who gets sent off.

But that isn’t the rule.

 

[RayCTID]

Other than the the two penalty incidents (although that was more down to the law) he was decent.

 

[SWP's back]

But when Pearce (our manager at the time) was sent off at Palace he was told to get out of his seat in the stands and go down the tunnel.

You’re going back 12-13 years?

 

[Dodge]

TOP quality that ref.

 

[SamTheGuru]

So much to talk about with the ref. He seemed possessed/crazy/irrational/insecure/out of his depth; the list can go on.

When he literally jumped in between Gundog and whoever it was and booked them both, you could clearly see the guy is as mad as a hatter. There was a similar incident later on also.

I did think the first half booking on Cancelo was harsh. It was literally Cancelo's first tackle (which was crap) but he booked Cancelo for the cumulative Bayern fouls.

The Bayern penalty is just a joke and no words can describe.

I didn't see what was going on in the bench but ran over and booked a Chelsea coach.

Running over to Ake and going, oh you are actually injured.....ok.

The list can go on and on but the guy was bonkers.

 

[SWP's back]

That officiating team need their own Netflix series, starring the ref. So many crazy, random and bizarre things throughout.

The ref was great.

 

[Dodge]

So much to talk about with the ref. He seemed possessed/crazy/irrational/insecure/out of his depth; the list can go on.

When he literally jumped in between Gundog and whoever it was and booked them both, you could clearly see the guy is as mad as a hatter. There was a similar incident later on also.

I did think the first half booking on Cancelo was harsh. It was literally Cancelo's first tackle (which was crap) but he booked Cancelo for the cumulative Bayern fouls.

The Bayern penalty is just a joke and no words can describe.

I didn't see what was going on in the bench but ran over and booked a Chelsea coach.

Running over to Ake and going, oh you are actually injured.....ok.

The list can go on and on but the guy was bonkers.

Cancelo stamped on Bernies foot ffs

 

[SWP's back]

So much to talk about with the ref. He seemed possessed/crazy/irrational/insecure/out of his depth; the list can go on.

When he literally jumped in between Gundog and whoever it was and booked them both, you could clearly see the guy is as mad as a hatter. There was a similar incident later on also.

I did think the first half booking on Cancelo was harsh. It was literally Cancelo's first tackle (which was crap) but he booked Cancelo for the cumulative Bayern fouls.

The Bayern penalty is just a joke and no words can describe.

I didn't see what was going on in the bench but ran over and booked a Chelsea coach.

Running over to Ake and going, oh you are actually injured.....ok.

The list can go on and on but the guy was bonkers.

I think you watched a different match to the rest of us. He was probably the best ref we’ve had all season.

Also the handball rule is wank but in European competition, they’re told to give those. It’s totally different to the PL and has been for a few years.

 

[David Kloppesh]

Yeah, I don’t quite understand people considering the Upamecano and Akanji handballs similar incidents.

One was a player charging down a shot with his arms tucked behind his back before he intentionally stuck out only one arm when he saw the ball might go by him on that side (he didn’t extend his other arm, so it wasn’t for balance). No deflection on the way, his arm was in an unnatural position (he had already tucked his arms, there was no physical reason to stretch his arm back out as he was jumping and turning), and it deviated the path of the ball. He could have completely blocked it but was just “unlucky” with his timing.

The other was a player defending on the end line, literally shoulder to shoulder with the attacker, could not have been closer to the ball without laying on it, with his arms in a natural position (same as the attacker he was defending), and the attacker kicks the ball off the players foot and it deflects up in to his arm. Ball wasn’t going toward goal, and it was barely even in play.

You could say both should be given by the letter of the law, and that’s fine, but you can’t say they are the same.

And I personally think the Upamecano handball was nailed on (and not giving it would start a free-for-all by defenders in the box) and the Akanji handball was harsh.

Thankfully, neither really impacted the outcome of the match.

Cheers for the elaborate response.
I think with Akanji the ball hit his foot first, but I am not sure what the rules are exactly, they seem to change rules between rounds nowdays.
Bayern's pen though, the defender had his arms stuck behind his back and in the last moment he pulled his arm to his side thus making himself bigger. I felt it was a clear penalty.
The ref was great, but he was under a lot of pressure from the shithousing by the lederhosen rags and the ref crumbled in the end, or Var had their money on draw tonight.

 

[David Kloppesh]

Cancelo stamped on Bernies foot ffs

and it was about the number of consecutive bayern fouls, me thinks

 

[SamTheGuru]

I had flashbacks of this penalty:

 

[BringBackSwales]

So much to talk about with the ref. He seemed possessed/crazy/irrational/insecure/out of his depth; the list can go on.

When he literally jumped in between Gundog and whoever it was and booked them both, you could clearly see the guy is as mad as a hatter. There was a similar incident later on also.

I did think the first half booking on Cancelo was harsh. It was literally Cancelo's first tackle (which was crap) but he booked Cancelo for the cumulative Bayern fouls.

The Bayern penalty is just a joke and no words can describe.

I didn't see what was going on in the bench but ran over and booked a Chelsea coach.

Running over to Ake and going, oh you are actually injured.....ok.

The list can go on and on but the guy was bonkers.

He stood up to the pressure of the Bayern players, the crowd and daft Thomas, I thought he did well (other than their pen)