Ref Watch

I thought Oliver had a terrible game last night, how Partey didn't get a second yellow when he rugby tackled Haaland was shocking. However I don't think a penalty was clear, Partey planted his foot next to the ball and Kev kicked him as he was trying to shoot. There were many instances where Oliver gave Arsenal favouritism last night, and it might be unpopular, but I can see why he didn't award a penalty.
Spoken like someone that doesn’t understand the game at its most basic level. KDB went to kick the ball into the net. Partey saw this was about to occur and with no attempt to play the ball put his leg in the path of KDB. A penalty all day long
 
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Everything he did last night was shit and bent. Just watching now as we have a free kick and Jesus is standing 2 yards away and right in front of the ball, and the cheat rather than tell Jesus to get 10 yards (which is a clear rule) he tells us to hurry the duck up. CHEATING CUNTING ****
 
Oliver's a coward but half decent.

Attwell's brave and will give decisions but is either incompetent or corrupt, I'm unsure which.

No they're both shite and possibly corrupt. I can't think of a decent ref to be honest and some of the var decisions this season have been atrocious, not just for is but other teams, Brighton in particular.
 
Just watched it again on City+, the commentary for the penalty is as follows, from 8:12:
" Ramsdale's spilt it, De Bruyne's brought down, penalty!.. no, what's Michael Oliver given? What's he given Michael Oliver?... Well it looked like a foul on De Bruyne, what's he given Michael Oliver?...He's given a free kick to Arsenal and not a penalty to City. Well I am not sure what he thinks has just happened there? Andy?... It's looks as though he's insinuating De Bruyne has... stepped across..., yeh... I can see Partey has just got his foot in there, and De Bruyne's has...yes I can see why, but initially, yeh, I can see it's the right decision, and in fact it's a very, very good decision because you can see the initial thought is penalty, and I think everyone of us thought it was, but, looking at it, he's correct...Well in reality what happened was De Bruyne went to hit the ball into the back of the net, after Ramsdale's spilt it, Partey came in to stop De Bruyne, De Bruyne's took a swing to where he thought the ball was and kicked Partey, and the two of them then fell over. So it is one of those where Michael Oliver has the gut instinct that it was the attacker that caused the collision, rather than the defensive midfielder, and it's the reason Andy felt it wasn't a penalty, "

I still think Oliver was very biased to Arsenal, but unfortunately I have to agree with the City commentary on the early penalty.
 
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Everything he did last night was shit and bent. Just watching now as we have a free kick and Jesus is standing 2 yards away and right in front of the ball, and the cheat rather than tell Jesus to get 10 yards (which is a clear rule) he tells us to hurry the duck up. CHEATING CUNTING ****

He was awful from minute one. I noticed when Arsenal scored he was lecturing Ederson for holding onto the ball or some shit. He also blew the whistle for us to hurry up a couple of times. It's a pity the **** and his mates don't do the same when we have to suffer ninety minutes of the same from the opposition every week.
 


The view from behind is most damning to me - he just takes KDB out

The view from behind is probably what olivar saw from his position, not sure as cant see him in the clip, but it really was a shocking decision. No wonder we were singing " your not fit to referee "
But probably booked his cup final gig last night.
 
Like Twattenburg has admitted to previously, I suppose Oliver had a game plan, well I hope we fcucked that up for him.
 
3:1 yellow cards dealt out in a game with rugby tackles, choke holds and sly legs left in.

Anything happen to that little TOWIE prick at the end going for Phil?

I keep seeing mentions of 'rumours' about White, but it just seems like there's rumours about there being rumours - I haven't seen anything saying what the rumours are.

Anyone have any ideas?

Ps. The answer isn't that he's a fucking bellend, because that isn't a rumour, that just true.
 
Just watched it again on City+, the commentary for the penalty is as follows, from 8:12:
" Ramsdale's spilt it, De Bruyne's brought down, penalty!.. no, what's Michael Oliver given? What's he given Michael Oliver?... Well it looked like a foul on De Bruyne, what's he given Michael Oliver? He's given a free kick to Arsenal and not a penalty to City. Well I am not sure what he thinks has just happened there? Andy? It's looks as though he's insinuating De Bruyne has... stepped across..., yeh... I can see Partey has just got his foot in there, and De Bruyne's has...yes I can see why, but initially, yeh, I can see it's the right decision, and in fact it's a very, very good decision because you can see the initial thought is penalty, and I think everyone of us thought it was, but, looking at it, he's correct, we'll in reality what happened was De Bruyne went to hit the ball into the back of the net, after Ramsdale's spilt it, Partey came in to stop De Bruyne, De Bruyne's took a swing to where he thought the ball was and kicked Partey, and the two of them then fell over. So it is one of those where Michael Oliver has the gut instinct that it was the attacker that caused the collision, rather than the defensive midfielder, and it's the reason Andy felt it wasn't a penalty, "

I still think Oliver was very biased to Arsenal, but unfortunately I have to agree with the City commentary on the early penalty.
If Kev (or any of our players) does that exact move to Partey in midfield it is a foul. He doesn’t play the ball, he simple steps in front of Kev’s stride to block his run/shot.

It is a penalty.
 
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OliVAR last night is the reason why I’m close to walking away from football. The ref’s are bent. The agenda’s are either personal, they think they are protecting the Premier League brand, or least likely they’re being paid. I believe it’s a mix of the first two. The help that United and LiVARpool get just to make sure they’re in European competitions is shocking too.

Don’t know if anybody has noticed the unwritten rule. First player booked in any game is a City player. Partey could and should have seen red by the time Dias was booked.
 
At the risk of WW3 kicking off, I thought it was just a standard Oliver performance - ie doing everything possible not to make a decision and be the talking point today.

On the penalty, Oliver sees it once, at full speed and is positioned on the wrong side to see Partey come through De Bruyne, so he gives what he sees.

With Webb having significantly increased the threshold for VAR to overrule on penalties to basically ‘ref was looking the other way’, it would take a brave ref to overrule the onfield decision, which we know Coote most certainly is not.

Every 50/50 was given to Arsenal as he didn’t want to be seen as a homer, Partey should’ve been sent off but the game was dead so he left it alone but equally many refs would’ve sent off Dias so he played safe both ways.

Ultimately, just another sad indictment that this coward is seen as the best we have to offer.
 
No they're both shite and possibly corrupt. I can't think of a decent ref to be honest and some of the var decisions this season have been atrocious, not just for is but other teams, Brighton in particular.

Not disagreeing with any of this, you could be right. I'd change my assessment then to Oliver being clever about his corruption while Attwell doesn't even seem to bother hiding it usually.

Brighton have been shafted, should be in a CL spot, but that would have meant both liverpool and united missing out, and that would obviously be too much for those in charge..
 

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